6 men on the court

[psujaye]

If a team has 6 men on the court and they score a basket, does the basket count? I don't have my rule book, but I think this a corrrectable error (incorrectly awarding points)?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by psujaye

If a team has 6 men on the court and they score a basket, does the basket count? I don't have my rule book, but I think this a corrrectable error (incorrectly awarding points)?

The ball becomes dead when an official recognizes and penalizes the infraction. All points scored until then stand. This is not a correctable error.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by psujaye

If a team has 6 men on the court and they score a basket, does the basket count? I don't have my rule book, but I think this a corrrectable error (incorrectly awarding points)?

It's not correctable. A live ball (which was not a throw-in) passed through the basket from above, therefore the points will stand.

You assess the technical foul and move on. (Expect a phone call from your assignor later. . .)

[Scooby]

Agree, not correctable. T and put the ball back into play.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Scooby

Agree, not correctable. T and put the ball back into play.

Making sure to count the players this time

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Making sure to count the players this time

During your pregame, you should practice counting more than 10 players on the court without having to take your shoes off.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

During your pregame, you should practice counting more than 10 players on the court without having to take your shoes off.

I can get to 11 without removing my shoes, but it creates a bit of a stir

[psujaye]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Making sure to count the players this time

T is charged to whom? directly/indirectly to head coach or directly to the 6th player?

[Indianaref]

Originally Posted by psujaye

T is charged to whom? directly/indirectly to head coach or directly to the 6th player?

Rule 10-1 Art 6

[Tio]

This may be a technical foul by rule, but it is OUR fault for starting the game with 6. We really shouldn't put the ball in play until there are 10 players on the court. I think this is part of our game management.

In the NCAA, the penalty is an indirect techncial foul charged to the player that offended (assuming we know who reported illegally or entered without reporting).

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by psujaye

T is charged to whom? directly/indirectly to head coach or directly to the 6th player?

Under NFHS rules this is a team technical foul. No individual is charged directly or indirectly with the foul. It does add to the team foul count.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by psujaye

If a team has 6 men on the court and they score a basket, does the basket count? I don't have my rule book, but I think this a corrrectable error (incorrectly awarding points)?

Team A is losing the game and wishes to employ the strategy of scoring quickly while causing the clock to stop when B has the ball.

Instead of yelling fire and "going for the ball", which always takes time off the clock, and often much more than A would like, they do this:

So... B has the ball in their FC and an extra A player sneaks on the court. Team A gets the defensive rebound and a quick outlet pass followed by a pass to the cherry picker 6th player for an easy two (perhaps 3). After the basket, the officials notice that A has 6 on the court. A T is issued. Now A is going to get the ball again no matter what, so a division-line throw-in for B is not a loss of possession to A. If B is really bad at free throws, then it may be worthwhile for A to "purposely" have 6 on the court as a trade for a guaranteed 2 points against the bet that A will miss their foul shots, with the benefit of the clock stopping quicker.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

If B is really bad at free throws, then it may be worthwhile for A to "purposely" have 6 on the court as a trade for a guaranteed 2 points against the bet that A will miss their foul shots, with the benefit of the clock stopping quicker.

The only way it's guaranteed is if the officials fail to notice that the 6th player entered.

I'd also argue that in addition to a technical foul for 6 players on the court, if you know the coach emloyed this strategy intentionally, a direct flagrant technical foul on the coach may be in order.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Team A is losing the game and wishes to employ the strategy of scoring quickly while causing the clock to stop when B has the ball.

Instead of yelling fire and "going for the ball", which always takes time off the clock, and often much more than A would like, they do this:

So... B has the ball in their FC and an extra A player sneaks on the court. Team A gets the defensive rebound and a quick outlet pass followed by a pass to the cherry picker 6th player for an easy two (perhaps 3). After the basket, the officials notice that A has 6 on the court. A T is issued. Now B is going to get the ball again no matter what, so a division-line throw-in for B is not a loss of possession to A. If B is really bad at free throws, then it may be worthwhile for A to "purposely" have 6 on the court as a trade for a guaranteed 2 points against the bet that B will miss their foul shots, with the benefit of the clock stopping quicker.

It makes more sense this way.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Team A is losing the game and wishes to employ the strategy of scoring quickly while causing the clock to stop when B has the ball.

Instead of yelling fire and "going for the ball", which always takes time off the clock, and often much more than A would like, they do this:

So... B has the ball in their FC and an extra A player sneaks on the court. Team A gets the defensive rebound and a quick outlet pass followed by a pass to the cherry picker 6th player for an easy two (perhaps 3). After the basket, the officials notice that A has 6 on the court. A T is issued. Now A is going to get the ball again no matter what, so a division-line throw-in for B is not a loss of possession to A. If B is really bad at free throws, then it may be worthwhile for A to "purposely" have 6 on the court as a trade for a guaranteed 2 points against the bet that A will miss their foul shots, with the benefit of the clock stopping quicker.

...and that sort of tactic is where a "travesty" ruling stats becoming a possibility.