Penalty for unauthorized leaving floor

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Just ask yourself this simple question: Is it really a big deal? That's it, honestly.

Or, ask yourself, "Is it a game interrupter?"

IOW, I agree with Scrapper on this. Both on how to call it and how it can't really be described. Maybe it has something to do with "what everyone else sees" and the philosophy of "it's better to miss something that did happen than to call something that didn't". For example, "everyone" can see the foot on the line. But, it's judgment as to whether that was a good dribble or palming. People count at different rates.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

IOW, I agree with Scrapper on this. Both on how to call it and how it can't really be described. Maybe it has something to do with "what everyone else sees" and the philosophy of "it's better to miss something that did happen than to call something that didn't". For example, "everyone" can see the foot on the line. But, it's judgment as to whether that was a good dribble or palming. People count at different rates.

Sounds just about right to me.

I do disagree with Skippy on some violations, but that's just a minor(and personal) disagreement. Some violations you should always call imo. Some violations you might call sometimes.

My personal "might call" list includes:
-player going OOB
- 3 seconds
- 10 seconds on FT
-"fisted" ball
- closely guarded when defender is at the 6' limit and not applying pressure
-swinging elbows when no opponent is close

Note that I said "might" call. I can't make a hard and fast rule, to be quite honest. Might bang it immediately. Sometimes though a warning just feels....right.

Wishy-washy? Probably. Shrug.....

JMO.....

[mj]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Sounds just about right to me.

I do disagree with Skippy on some violations, but that's just a minor(and personal) disagreement. Some violations you should always call imo. Some violations you might call sometimes.

My personal "might call" list includes:
-player going OOB
- 3 seconds
- 10 seconds on FT
-"fisted" ball
- closely guarded when defender is at the 6' limit and not applying pressure
-swinging elbows when no opponent is close

Note that I said "might" call. I can't make a hard and fast rule, to be quite honest. Might bang it immediately. Sometimes though a warning just feels....right.

Wishy-washy? Probably. Shrug.....

JMO.....

I agree with the above list and will add one more (mostly seen in girl's games for some reason)...during a free throw, the person in the first lane space has their heel in the air above the block.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Or, ask yourself, "Is it a game interrupter?"

I think I'm more concerned with, "Is it a career interrupter?"