Whistle to end quarter?

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by rockchalk jhawk

i've been told at camps to only blow the whistle at the end of qtr/half if you need to wave off an attempt that happened after the horn, otherwise, let it go.

I agree with this. The horn ends the period. If nothing is happening at the end of the period, there's no need for a whistle. In fact, a whistle could just confuse things by making people think you have a call.

The only time I'll whistle at the end of the period is I'm waving off a shot.

[bob jenkins]

When I'm responsible, I whistle every time unless there's a "foul or violation so near the end of the period that the timer cna't stop the clock in time" (or whatever the specific wording is. In that event, the whistle for the foul or violation is used (and if there are FTs, of course the whistle doesn't end the period).

I've been at caps where there's been lots of discussion on this, with no resolution. I seem to recall that it's now specifically in the NCAAW manual to blow the whistle.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

I agree with this. The horn ends the period. If nothing is happening at the end of the period, there's no need for a whistle. In fact, a whistle could just confuse things by making people think you have a call.

The only time I'll whistle at the end of the period is I'm waving off a shot.

If that is the concern, I have never had that problem in all the years I have been officiating. Also when the quarter is over, I also wave my hands to signify the quarter, half or game is over. I have never had anyone not know what I or my partners were calling at the end of the game. Also during quarter and half breaks, there is a shot of some kind coming at the end of the period.

Peace

[kbilla]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If that is the concern, I have never had that problem in all the years I have been officiating. Also when the quarter is over, I also wave my hands to signify the quarter, half or game is over. I have never had anyone not know what I or my partners were calling at the end of the game. Also during quarter and half breaks, there is a shot of some kind coming at the end of the period.

Peace

Exactly I wave also - nothing really to be confused about if you are waving your hands either in front of you or over your head...

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If that is the concern, I have never had that problem in all the years I have been officiating. Also when the quarter is over, I also wave my hands to signify the quarter, half or game is over. I have never had anyone not know what I or my partners were calling at the end of the game. Also during quarter and half breaks, there is a shot of some kind coming at the end of the period.

Peace

If you are going to whistle at the end of a quarter, I think it's appropriate to wave the hands as a signal. Many people look to the official when his/her whistle is sounded and to do nothing except start walking somewhere is not good communication.

[Luv4Asian8]

I'm along with a few others here. For HS, I don't whistle the end, even to wave off or score the goal. Only time is whistle at the end of a period is if there is a foul, and MAYBE a violation.

[Marklarkin]

NFHS Rule 5-8-2d

We all know that the horn is information only for substitution purposes, and we have a specific procedure we go through to allow substitutes to enter the game.

We also tell players to ignore horns when the ball is live. It is not the responsibility of the players to judge the status of the ball at the end of the period, or when there could have been an inadvertant horn.

The horn is information that time has run out of the quarter. Officials determine if there is any foul/violation/tap/try that has to be judged on before the quarter actually ends.

Since players are conditioned to stop play when they hear a whistle, the responsible official should sound their whistle to get the players attention to prevent further/unecessary play.

Also sounding your whistle right away and waving off a tap or try provides immediate information of your ruling.

[Rich]

Don't resurrect old threads.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If that is the concern, I have never had that problem in all the years I have been officiating.

You're probably right, in that confusion is not a huge worry. But the whistle is also not necessary, since the horn has already signified the end of the period.

I think this is probably a tomato/tomahto thing.

[rockyroad]

You will not find anything about it in the NFHS manuals. It's a commonly accepted practice (at least around here) but it is not in the books anywhere. I think the only ruleset that addresses having a whistle at the end of every period is NCAA-W.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

You will not find anything about it in the NFHS manuals. It's a commonly accepted practice (at least around here) but it is not in the books anywhere. I think the only ruleset that addresses having a whistle at the end of every period is NCAA-W.

I must have misread something. There is actually a practice that is accepted that is not addressed in the NFHS Manual? Someone is going to be very upset that you said this.

Peace

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I must have misread something. There is actually a practice that is accepted that is not addressed in the NFHS Manual? Someone is going to be very upset that you said this.

Peace

Yeah...where is Nevada today?

We blow the whistle to end every quarter. Yes, we use NCAAW rules but we also tell the girls to play the whistle, not the horn. Just to prevent any confusion, the whistle goes also.

[rockchalk jhawk]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Also when the quarter is over, I also wave my hands to signify the quarter, half or game is over.
Peace

But isn't that why we have a horn blow? If we blow the whistle every time, why not just do away with the horn? I don't know, it just seems redundant to me.

[kbilla]

Originally Posted by rockchalk jhawk

But isn't that why we have a horn blow? If we blow the whistle every time, why not just do away with the horn? I don't know, it just seems redundant to me.

It acts as just one final clarifier that the period has ended...that there is no "continuation" of a shot, no foul, no anything...not sure how you would do away with a horn, that is how they make 'em!