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Old Wed Dec 05, 2007, 08:52am
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No way. This guy is actually literate enough to use caps in the right places and spell all his words correctly. I disagree with a couple of his posts, but at least I understand them.

If I had to guess, I would say that he's a coach or former coach who remembers things from the coach's side. (They're more reasonable as you get to higher levels, you can always avoid the T, etc.)
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Old Wed Dec 05, 2007, 10:49am
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If I had to guess, I would say that he's a coach or former coach who remembers things from the coach's side. (They're more reasonable as you get to higher levels, you can always avoid the T, etc.)
Naw, he's a lawyer. They're trained to be wishy-washy weasels.
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Old Wed Dec 05, 2007, 01:22pm
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Yeah, the lawyer did a little research. Looks to me like University of Arizona and ASU have a grand total of zero technical fouls in their games this year for themselves or their opponents. Despite the point of emphasis, top officials will not be throwing out T's very often. It's a last resort.
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Old Wed Dec 05, 2007, 01:39pm
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Yeah, the lawyer did a little research. Looks to me like University of Arizona and ASU have a grand total of zero technical fouls in their games this year for themselves or their opponents. Despite the point of emphasis, top officials will not be throwing out T's very often. It's a last resort.
Yeah, google's pretty easy to use.

In fact I used it for about 5 minutes to come up with this list of officials with a pair of balls.

http://media.www.dailyorange.com/med...-3127217.shtml
http://www.niagara-gazette.com/sport...337225225.html
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=273130008
http://www.madison.com/tct/sports/260180
http://www.morningsun.net/stories/11...21320574.shtml
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ritethru.0839/
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/recap?gid=200711120343
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h...BlYcgD8STSVLG0
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Old Sat Dec 08, 2007, 12:03pm
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Well, another 'T' last night:

JV girls. Home team is getting trounced early in the game. With me as the trail in two person, home team's coach announces, although not real loudly, "that's a travel." With a couple minutes to go before the half, the home team coach again announces, "that's a travel," which again wasn't real loud. The player who the coach thought had traveled then picked up her dribble and quite obviously drug her pivot foot trying to distance herself from the defender. I then called traveling.

Home team coach responds, "that's a make up call for the ones you guys missed. That's three for them and one for us." I turned and told the coach that was enough and that he needed to coach his team and let us officiate.

Within a minute after starting the second half, the home team's coach announced, "that's a carry." I hit my whistle and administered the T.

Here's the deal: I didn't try to immediately analyze whether the coach had good reason to question our calls or non-calls, sorry Oracle. I simply issued a "T," and didn't sweat it afterward, as many have suggested.

With that said, however, I will keep working on my game management skills, or lack thereof.
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Old Sat Dec 08, 2007, 12:20pm
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home team's coach announces, although not real loudly, "that's a travel."

With a couple minutes to go before the half, the home team coach again announces, "that's a travel," which again wasn't real loud.

Home team coach responds, "that's a make up call for the ones you guys missed. That's three for them and one for us."

I turned and told the coach that was enough and that he needed to coach his team and let us officiate.

Within a minute after starting the second half, the home team's coach announced, "that's a carry." I hit my whistle and administered the T.

Here's the deal: I didn't try to immediately analyze whether the coach had good reason to question our calls or non-calls, sorry Oracle. I simply issued a "T," and didn't sweat it afterward, as many have suggested.

With that said, however, I will keep working on my game management skills, or lack thereof.
Sounds pretty good. I learned the hard way not to say, "You coach, I'll officiate." It's a set up for him to say, "Well then you start doing it!" At which point you have to T him. Better to say, "Coach, that's enough reffing." or just (as you did) "Coach, that's enough".

And I know others won't agree with this, but I'd have given him one more stop sign or "that's enough" or hairy eyeball for the first complaint after half-time.

Also, if it's not real loud, sometimes you can just define what he's doing as talking to himself, and practice feeling sorry for the girls who aren't getting a good learning experience. But that will depend on where you've drawn your line. You knew what your limit was, you communicated taht line and you didn't have a chip on your shoulder. That's a pretty good job!
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Old Sat Dec 08, 2007, 03:32pm
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Sounds pretty good. I learned the hard way not to say, "You coach, I'll officiate."
Juulie, as you know, I usually say, "Coach, let's switch places. You come out here and officiate the game and I'll sit on the bench and act like a jackass."
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Old Sat Dec 08, 2007, 02:02pm
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Within a minute after starting the second half, the home team's coach announced, "that's a carry." I hit my whistle and administered the T.

Here's the deal: I didn't try to immediately analyze whether the coach had good reason to question our calls or non-calls, sorry Oracle. I simply issued a "T," and didn't sweat it afterward, as many have suggested.

With that said, however, I will keep working on my game management skills, or lack thereof.
You warned him. He wouldn't listen. He earned the technical foul.

Good job imo.
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