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Old Sun Nov 25, 2007, 05:17pm
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Shot clock reset question

Question from new shot clock operator: When does the shot clock reset after a made basket -- when the defensive team gains possession by pulling it out of the net or after the ball is in-bounded and touches someone?
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Old Sun Nov 25, 2007, 05:20pm
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When the ball is touched inbounds.


NCAA rule 2-11-5
Duties of Shot-Clock Operator
The shot-clock operator shall:
Art. 5.
Start the timing device when a player inbounds legally touches or is
touched by the ball on a throw-in or when a team initially gains possession
from a jump ball, an unsuccessful try for goal or when possession is gained
of a loose ball after a jump ball or unsuccessful try for goal.


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Old Sun Nov 25, 2007, 05:28pm
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Thanks

So I will press the button (a spring-loaded toggle) as the ball enters the cylinder in case it is just a rim-reset, and continue to hold the button at 35 seconds until the defensive team in-bounds and touches it. Thanks for the help!
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Old Sun Nov 25, 2007, 05:32pm
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BTW make sure that you also start the shot clock if the first touch is by a defensive player. For example, a defender may deflect the throw-in pass or bat the ball back out of bounds. The shot clock likely should not still be at 35 (or whatever amount is used) when someone from the throwing team finally gains control or when the inbounder is administered a new throw-in.
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Old Sun Nov 25, 2007, 06:33pm
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Shot Clock

Shot Clock Prodecures
*Shot clock used entire game including overtimes
*Shot clock duration 35 seconds

Start Shot Clock
*Throw-In – when in-bounds player touches or is touched by ball (exception is kicked ball)
*Jump Ball – when player gains control of ball
*Missed Try - when player gains control of ball
*Missed Free Throw – when player gains control of ball
*Loose Ball - when player gains control of ball

Officials Signals
*Reset – whirling motion of a pointed index finger above head
*Violation – Official taps top of head with open palm

When To Reset
*Floor violations except kicking
*Intentionally kicked ball – reset to 15 if under 15; otherwise leave what is on clock
*Ball hits ring on try or tap – reset when team control secured
*Opponent secures control of ball
*Personal foul
*Try or tap fails to hit ring and is recovered by opponent
*Held ball – if defensive team has AP arrow
*Technical Foul

When Not To Reset
*Defensive team touches ball but does not gain control
*Defensive team causes ball to go out-of-bounds
*Defensive team cause held ball but offensive team has AP arrow
*Blocked try or tap is recovered by offensive team
*Try or tap fails to hit ring and is recovered by offensive team
*Held ball during throw-in and offensive team has AP arrow
*Time-out is granted
*Game stopped due to injury, blood rule or loss of glasses/lens
*Any shot at wrong basket

Shot Clock Responsibility
It should be a primary responsibility of the Trail official to be aware of the shot clock. The Trail should try to look at the shot clock occasionally during the entire offensive possession, especially as the possession continues for an extended period of time. This will allow the official to be prepared to rule on a possible violation, incorrect reset or the horn goes off during or before a shot is taken. It would be efficient game management if the lead also makes themself aware of the shot clock during a possession.
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Old Sun Nov 25, 2007, 06:37pm
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Billy, where did you get that?

Did you put it together yourself or get it from one of the handful of states that use a shot clock in HS games or perhaps from some NCAA source?
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Old Mon Nov 26, 2007, 09:02am
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Billy's list was put together by IAABO, for the most part. IAABO does a good job most of the time, but they primarily aim their material at high school rules and officials. But of course, there are no high school (NFHS) rules for the shot clock. So I have just a couple of corrections/comments:

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Originally Posted by BillyMac
Start Shot Clock
*Loose Ball - when player gains control of ball
A little misleading. In many cases, the shot clock is already running during a loose ball. If it's running, then the determination must be whether to reset it (if the defense secures control) or simply allow it to continue (if the offense secures control). If you're talking strictly about rebounding action, then the description is correct; but obviously, there are lots of other loose ball situations.

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When To Reset
*Held ball – if defensive team has AP arrow
*Technical Foul
Both of these are incorrect. The first item should read:

*Any held ball -- EXCEPTION: When there is team control and the possession arrow favors the team in control.

That is an important distinction. If a held ball occurs immediately following a try which fails to hit the ring, we will reset the shot clock, even if the arrow favors the offensive team. If there's no team control, reset it on the held ball.

The second item is almost correct for high school rules, because in high school, any single technical foul results in either a change of possession (reset) or a defensive foul (reset). But even for high school rules, it should be noted that this reset is for any SINGLE technical foul, as double technicals would go to the POI, with no reset of the shot clock.

In college games, it should read:

*A single technical foul charged to the defensive team.
*A single flagrant technical foul.
*(MEN) A single intentional technical foul.

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When Not To Reset
*Defensive team cause held ball but offensive team has AP arrow
As I pointed out above, this is inaccurate.

Quote:
*Any shot at wrong basket
Just for precision, I would reword this to: "Any ball thrown which contacts the opponent's basket."

As I mentioned, there simply are no NFHS rules to govern the shot clock. So if Billy's state has mandated things to be the way he typed them up, that's how he should do them. But if the original poster is doing the shot clock for an NCAA game, I hope that my comments cleared up any differences.

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