Coaches sub-varsity

[dan74]

I more question, for now anyways...

I think the NFHS just refers to head coaches, regardless of level, but can head JV, soph, frosh, head coaches stand while coaching their team...within the confines of the coaches box, of course.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by dan74

I more question, for now anyways...

I think the NFHS just refers to head coaches, regardless of level, but can head JV, soph, frosh, head coaches stand while coaching their team...within the confines of the coaches box, of course.

Depends on what your state says, but I've never heard of a state where this is allowed only at the varsity level.

Maybe in, wait for it........... Kansas.

[Terrapins Fan]

Depends on the state. But oveall, yes, same rules for all levels Varsity, JV, Freshman etc.

Some states say they can stand, and have 1 foot outside the box, others say, both feet in the box. I believe Pa. doesn't allow coaches to stand suring the game. I like that.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Depends on what your state says, but I've never heard of a state where this is allowed only at the varsity level.

Maybe in, wait for it........... Kansas.

Wisconsin.

Seat belt in all levels except varsity. 14 foot box in varsity (boys and girls).

[bigbeardedbryan]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

I believe Pa. doesn't allow coaches to stand suring the game. I like that.

I'd like that too, but unfortunately PA has turned coaches "free-range" by adopting a box rule like the rest of the states.

I was inches from tripping over both JV coaches tonight on a fast break, and after the next stoppage, we had a little discussion about how they really needed to stay behind the orange line.

[Nevadaref]

1. The NFHS rules book is written for VARSITY contests. Says so right in the front. So it is up to each state to decide what rules to apply to their sub-varsity games. NV treats all HS games the same rulewise.

2. PA used to make their coaches sit, but a couple of years ago adopted the coaching box.

[MadCityRef]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Depends on what your state says, but I've never heard of a state where this is allowed only at the varsity level.

Maybe in, wait for it........... Kansas.

WI, non-V head coaches must be in physical contact with the bench/chair at all times.

Originally Posted by MadCityRef

WI, non-V head coaches must be in physical contact with the bench/chair at all times.

Hmmmm....I hear a can of worms opening.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by MadCityRef

WI, non-V head coaches must be in physical contact with the bench/chair at all times.

Meaning, they can stand, but must stay close enough that their leg/butt (depending on height) is still touching bench?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Meaning, they can stand, but must stay close enough that their leg/butt (depending on height) is still touching bench?

No, they are technically subject to the seat belt since they aren't granted use of the coaching box.

I've seen subvarsity officials completely ignore this while waiting for my game, BTW.

[MadCityRef]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

No, they are technically subject to the seat belt since they aren't granted use of the coaching box.

I've seen subvarsity officials completely ignore this while waiting for my game, BTW.

I've had varsity refs say kneeling in front with a finger on the bench will do.
WIAA sez, "in physical contact."

Younger officials either are too concerned with play on the court or too scared to take action. It's problematic because the sub-v coaches are the ones needing the rule the most.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by MadCityRef

I've had varsity refs say kneeling in front with a finger on the bench will do.
WIAA sez, "in physical contact."

Younger officials either are too concerned with play on the court or too scared to take action. It's problematic because the sub-v coaches are the ones needing the rule the most.

I'm a varsity ref. Those guys have no clue what the phrase "spirit of the rule" means, clearly.

For everyone else, here's the text. Number 1 is pretty clear to me. It's essentially a rewrite of the NFHS seat belt rule (no optional coaching box):

1. Coaching Box
For varsity games only the head coach may be off the bench in front of his/her
seat within the confines of the designated fourteen-foot coaches boxto give
instructions to his/her players and/or substitutes.
2. Bench Conduct
For all nonvarsity competitionthe following coaches bench conduct rule must
be followed: A direct technical foul will be assessed a coach for failure to
maintain body contactwith the bench at anytime while the clock is running or
is stopped except to:
A. Rise and stand in front of his/her seat to request a time-out or signal
his/her players to request a time-out.
B. Confer with personnel at the scorers’ table to request a 60-second time-out
for a correctable error.
C. Confer with personnel at the scorers’ table to request a 60-second time-out
to prevent or rectify a timing or scoring mistake or an alternating
possession mistake.
D. Replace or remove a disqualified or injured player, or player directed to
leave the game, within 20seconds when a substitute is available from
within the confines of his/her bench.
E. Confer with bench personnel and players within the confines of the bench
area during a charged time-out or the intermission between quarters and
extra periods.
F. Attend an injured player when beckoned onto the court by an official.