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Old Thu Nov 29, 2007, 08:07pm
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Reach in foul on player

NFHS - What is the proper mechanics (signal)for reportng this type of foul?
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Old Thu Nov 29, 2007, 08:16pm
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Old Thu Nov 29, 2007, 08:31pm
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If a player "reaches in" but makes no contact, it's not a foul.
Go with "hit" signal if there is - but that ball better be loose or there's blood on the floor!!
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Old Thu Nov 29, 2007, 08:34pm
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If a player "reaches in" but makes no contact, it's not a foul.
Go with "hit" signal if there is - but that ball better be loose or there's blood on the floor!!
Or displacement. Or illegal advantage.
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Old Thu Nov 29, 2007, 09:14pm
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Or illegal advantage.
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Old Thu Nov 29, 2007, 09:37pm
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illegal advantage for the fouling player's team.

illegal disadvantage for the dribbler.
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Old Fri Nov 30, 2007, 06:26am
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Originally Posted by MadCityRef
If a player "reaches in" but makes no contact, it's not a foul.
Go with "hit" signal if there is - but that ball better be loose or there's blood on the floor!!
What is a "hit" signal?

Could you explain the "loose ball/blood on the floor comment? Are you saying that you shouldn't call a foul if a defensive player reaches in with an arm, makes illegal contact and slows down/knocks off balance/re-directs an opponent?
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Old Fri Nov 30, 2007, 06:36am
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What is a "hit" signal?
He obviously means NFHS signal #29.
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Old Fri Nov 30, 2007, 08:30am
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He obviously means NFHS signal #29.
Illegal use of hands.
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Old Fri Nov 30, 2007, 08:29am
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If a player "reaches in" but makes no contact, it's not a foul.
My old interpreter used to say he would get so mad when he heard a coach yell, "That's a reach!". He'd say (to us, not to the coach), "Of course he's reaching!! How's he supposed to steal the ball without reaching for it?!?!?!"
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Old Fri Nov 30, 2007, 11:18am
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Originally Posted by rngrck
NFHS - What is the proper mechanics (signal)for reportng this type of foul?
The question is, what did the player do wrong?

Normally when there actually is a foul on this play, it's either a block, illegal use of the hands, or a push.

Most of the time, there is no actual foul, however. Never say "reaching in" when reporting the foul, and never say "over the back" when reporting the foul.
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Old Fri Nov 30, 2007, 11:28am
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I believe the reaching in mechanic is right next to the over the back mechanic in the rulesbook.
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Old Fri Nov 30, 2007, 11:43am
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Why can't you report it as reaching in while signaling the illegal use of hands signal? Some coaches want to know exactly what the player did. To me , illegal use of hands is too general.
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Old Fri Nov 30, 2007, 11:47am
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Because it perpetuates the myth that all "reaching in" is a foul.
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Old Fri Nov 30, 2007, 11:55am
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Because it perpetuates the myth that all "reaching in" is a foul.
Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, hacks me off more when it comes to this avocation than hearing an official use the terms "reach-in" or "Over the Back".
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