Had good comeback yesterday....

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by tomegun

I think we should develop a growth chart for officials. The progression from:

1. Not calling anything and not hearing anything
2. Calling everything
3. Calling less and hearing everything - letting it affect you
4. Calling more quality calls and passing on some calls
5. Having somewhat total control over your actions, hearing everything and responding to nothing but questions from head coaches.

item 6: Having complete control over your actions, and responding appropriately to everything.

[Adam]

I think 6 is an acceptable re-wording of 5.
Most times, the appropriate response is to ignore it.

[Adam]

Frankly, in a hs game, I'd never even consider this. Only if you've seen the parent a hundred times, know his general demeanor as well as his current demeanor, and are comfortable with him, could you do this. IOW, in exactly the situation it seems to have been done.

This is more like walking up to a friend in the stands you know has been razzing you all game.

[Indianaref]

"You can generally lump interactions with fans into two categories. There are those situations where the answer to the question of whether to talk to fans is definitely No. On the other hand, there are those times when the answer is Hell No! Knowing the difference is important" Back in the Saddle

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

item 6: Having complete control over your actions, and responding appropriately to everything.

Rainmaker, I didn't see any smiley faces, but I hope you are joking. You are joking right?

Having complete control over your actions I can agree with although once an official perfects that they should probably quit because they've reached the mountain top.
Responding appropriately to everything I totally disagree with unless it includes no response to anything but questions. If you do respond appropriately to everything, a coach would be able to reel you in quick. What is the appropriate response to a comment from a coach? Nothing. Silence cannot be quoted.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Rainmaker, I didn't see any smiley faces, but I hope you are joking. You are joking right?

Having complete control over your actions I can agree with although once an official perfects that they should probably quit because they've reached the mountain top.
Responding appropriately to everything I totally disagree with unless it includes no response to anything but questions. If you do respond appropriately to everything, a coach would be able to reel you in quick. What is the appropriate response to a comment from a coach? Nothing. Silence cannot be quoted.

If this is the appropriate response, then why do you disagree with responding appropriately to everything?

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Rainmaker, I didn't see any smiley faces, but I hope you are joking. You are joking right?

Having complete control over your actions I can agree with although once an official perfects that they should probably quit because they've reached the mountain top.
Responding appropriately to everything I totally disagree with unless it includes no response to anything but questions. If you do respond appropriately to everything, a coach would be able to reel you in quick. What is the appropriate response to a comment from a coach? Nothing. Silence cannot be quoted.

Couldn't an "appropriate response" mean different things? To me, an appropriate response could be silence, it could be a simple, one sentence comment, it could be stepping between two players to prevent something else from happening, it could be a "stop sign" (sorry, couldn't resist ), or it could be a "T".

A response, at least to me, doesn't necessarily mean something spoken. I'm assuming (I know, that's dangerous) that's what she meant.

[M&M Guy]

Sorry, Juulie, I wasn't trying to speak for you.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Couldn't an "appropriate response" mean different things? To me, an appropriate response could be silence, it could be a simple, one sentence comment, it could be stepping between two players to prevent something else from happening, it could be a "stop sign" (sorry, couldn't resist ), or it could be a "T".

A response, at least to me, doesn't necessarily mean something spoken. I'm assuming (I know, that's dangerous) that's what she meant.

Thank you for understanding me. Sometimes I feel so... I don't know .... just... unempathized ... *sigh*

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Thank you for understanding me. Sometimes I feel so... I don't know .... just... unempathized ... *sigh*

No problem - I learned all about empathy from JR - the King of Empathy.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

No problem - I learned all about empathy from JR - the King of Empathy.

Emperor of Empathy, Sultan of Sympathy, King of Kindliness.

And one big pain in the @ss

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Emperor of Empathy, Sultan of Sympathy, King of Kindliness.

And one big pain in the @ss

But wise! Insightful! ...and actually intelligent once in a while. At least over the last five minutes or so... (see T's at the End of the Game thread)