Unsportsmanlike?

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by MeRef

4.7.1 applies here if we use reasoned judgment that as the game was progressing that A1 was not letting B move and B contact A1 who was an inch away. "Blocking is illegal personal contact which impedes the progress of an opponent with OR WITHOUT the ball."

"...facing him and staring right in his face. Player B had no room to even take a step forward. On one free throw, player B went to the opposite end and player A continued to shadow him and get in his face....

Where is the contact that is illegal? A1 is an inch away - that seems to indicate no contact. If B1 tries to get around A1, and A1 holds or blocks him to prevent B1's getting around him, then it should be a foul call.

Originally Posted by jdw3018

Where is the contact that is illegal? A1 is an inch away - that seems to indicate no contact. If B1 tries to get around A1, and A1 holds or blocks him to prevent B1's getting around him, then it should be a foul call.

Correct, this thread does call for a little bit of extrapolation unless these guys think the players are stationary the whole game. it is reasonable to assume that illegal contact will eventually occur when "Player B had no room to even take a step forward.". All one has to do is envison a cut back to the left and running into the defender or the defender cutting him off and creating contact.

I guess if we can't extrapolate the OP then we are done.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by MeRef

Correct, this thread does call for a little bit of extrapolation unless these guys think the players are stationary the whole game. it is reasonable to assume that illegal contact will eventually occur when "Player B had no room to even take a step forward.". All one has to do is envison a cut back to the left and running into the defender or the defender cutting him off and creating contact.

I guess if we can't extrapolate the OP then we are done.

And we've all advocated calling that when it happens. No one has said to let it go. Why does that allow the guarded player to run through the guard?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by MeRef

it is reasonable to assume that illegal contact will eventually occur when "Player B had no room to even take a step forward.". All one has to do is envison a cut back to the left and running into the defender or the defender cutting him off and creating contact.

For any officials reading Rec League Ronny's words above, please note that a defensive player after establishing a legal guarding position does not have to give a step to an opponent from the front. They can get as close as they want, short of touching. Everything mentioned in the last sentence above would be either a PC or TC foul on B if the contact was between the defender's shoulders.

Rec League Ronny very obviously does not how the applicable rules work.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by MeRef

Correct, this thread does call for a little bit of extrapolation unless these guys think the players are stationary the whole game. it is reasonable to assume that illegal contact will eventually occur when "Player B had no room to even take a step forward.". All one has to do is envison a cut back to the left and running into the defender or the defender cutting him off and creating contact.

I guess if we can't extrapolate the OP then we are done.

Your extrapolation needs work. That's a foul on the offensive player.

The fact is that you have no clue about how to ajudicate this situation under the rules.