Unsportsmanlike?

[Rev.Ref63]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

That's not a very Christian attitude.

I beg to differ. Jesus, quite often, rebuked the multitudes for hearing His very simple teaching and yet refusing to understand [comprehend] what He was saying.
Matthew 15:10 And he called the multitude, and said unto them, Hear, and understand: (KJV)
Matthew 24:15 ...whoso readeth, let him understand: (KJV)

It is tiresome to continue to explain and even admit that I made a mistake and declare that I would correct the mistake, only to have someone accuse me of not agreeing. Apparently he is unable to understand what he reads.

[Rev.Ref63]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

You just have to learn to walk away from the discussion by saying.....Thank you.

This will be a great spot for me to bow out of this discussion. I believe that I've said everything I wanted to say.

Thank you to all those who offered their input. Regardless of how some may characterize my position, I did learn some valuable lessons from this thread that will make me a better official.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Sooo...please list the professions that in your opinion do not require a high standard of integrity. Other than politician.

Used car salesman?

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Rev.Ref63

I beg to differ. Jesus, quite often, rebuked the multitudes for hearing His very simple teaching and yet refusing to understand [comprehend] what He was saying.
Matthew 15:10 And he called the multitude, and said unto them, Hear, and understand: (KJV)
Matthew 24:15 ...whoso readeth, let him understand: (KJV)

It is tiresome to continue to explain and even admit that I made a mistake and declare that I would correct the mistake, only to have someone accuse me of not agreeing. Apparently he is unable to understand what he reads.

Please quote the verse where Jesus called to the mulitude to say he'll get back to them when their reading comprehension improves. Which you've just done again btw.

...isn't there a cute holier-than-thou smiley we can put here...?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

RevRef -- I wish this discussion hadn't gotten so testy. You are a welcome (to me) member of this board, and I hope you won't be chased away. Sometimes Rutledge and sometimes Jurassic can become, well, grouchy. And sometimes either of them can appear to be grouchy by the way the words appear on the screen. You just have to learn to walk away from the discussion by saying.....



wait for it.....



Thank you.

I seriously doubt I have ever been grouchy by a conversation on a discussion board. I know this might become a shock to some people, but they are just words. If that upsets people then I feel it says more about them then me. And if you were paying attention to this conversation, I did not ever call someone a name or accuse anyone of anything. I even spent many posts clarifying my position. Juulie, I have seen you use much more harsh words in the past few months than anything I have said in this post. I can tell you not one time was I ever offended by your words.

Peace

[Rev.Ref63]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

...isn't there a cute holier-than-thou smiley we can put here...?

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I seriously doubt I have ever been grouchy by a conversation on a discussion board. I know this might become a shock to some people, but they are just words. If that upsets people then I feel it says more about them then me. And if you were paying attention to this conversation, I did not ever call someone a name or accuse anyone of anything. I even spent many posts clarifying my position. Juulie, I have seen you use much more harsh words in the past few months than anything I have said in this post. I can tell you not one time was I ever offended by your words.

Peace

That's why I said "sometimes SEEM grouchy". I know that it's easy for a person's words on the screen to be misinterpreted. Mine, and others. Although as you point out, when I really get grouchy, everyone knows it!! Dan and Jurassic are more like me than you in that, I think!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Rev.Ref63

Perhaps when you've learned to comprehend what you read we can continue this discussion.

Um no, I've already stated that it's a waste of time discussing it with you. Why would I want to continue wasting my time?

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Sooo...please list the professions that in your opinion do not require a high standard of integrity. Other than politician.

Crack Dealer
Prostitute
Mob Boss
7th Grade Teacher
SEC Commissioner
Internet Discussion Board Pot-stirrer

Look, we all know that integrity is an important thing, but some careers demand a much higher level of accountability concerning integrity than other jobs do...

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref
Sooo...please list the professions that in your opinion do not require a high standard of integrity. Other than politician.

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Crack Dealer

I wouldn't want to deal crack and not have integrity. Deliver the wrong "product" and sleep with the fishes.

[just another ref]

On the subject of interaction with coaches, I think the setting makes ALL the difference. If you are calling a local jr. high tourney where everybody knows everybody, as far as I'm concerned you can go into the hospitality room and play cards with the coaches between games and it won't hurt anybody. Calling any varsity game anywhere, I agree activity should be kept to a minimum.

As far as input from a coach being helpful to an official, I say never totally dismiss any opportunity to learn. Think of it this way: You work in a slaughterhouse and your job is to hit the pigs (coaches) on the head with a sledgehammer. If the pig makes a simple, reasonable request, (Don't hit me until I have my eyes closed.) you can weigh it and see if it merits your consideration.
Just don't let the pig (coach) talk you into swinging the hammer with only one hand.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by just another ref

On the subject of interaction with coaches, I think the setting makes ALL the difference. If you are calling a local jr. high tourney where everybody knows everybody, as far as I'm concerned you can go into the hospitality room and play cards with the coaches between games and it won't hurt anybody. Calling any varsity game anywhere, I agree activity should be kept to a minimum.

As far as input from a coach being helpful to an official, I say never totally dismiss any opportunity to learn. Think of it this way: You work in a slaughterhouse and your job is to hit the pigs (coaches) on the head with a sledgehammer. If the pig makes a simple, reasonable request, (Don't hit me until I have my eyes closed.) you can weigh it and see if it merits your consideration.
Just don't let the pig (coach) talk you into swinging the hammer with only one hand.

A sledgehammer? I gotta get me one of these for the coaches/captains meeting

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Um no, I've already stated that it's a waste of time discussing it with you. Why would I want to continue wasting my time?

Interesting to take the time to make a post discussing the fact that the discussion is a waste of time.

[Rev.Ref63]

Originally Posted by just another ref

As far as input from a coach being helpful to an official, I say never totally dismiss any opportunity to learn.

Well said.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Interesting to take the time to make a post discussing the fact that the discussion is a waste of time.

It's also a waste of time telling you that you are a waste of time too. But you already know that, so I won't bother saying that again either.