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Old Fri Nov 16, 2007, 03:02pm
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I'm not a loner and I like the company I keep. *We* take care of business. My partners and I are a team.
Good debate, some more questions I have...

If you do have a bad game can you really have a fresh start the next night?

What would happen to your friendship(s) if something went awry?

If someone gets sick or hurt is the whole crew done?

What about the issue of advancement? Do you take that into consideration? Is it a "as the crew goes" mentality? Do you fear that a partner(s) could hold you back because you're now viewed as a single crew? Are you trying to advance only as a crew?

If this is the best way, then why isn't it this way in College/NBA?
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Old Fri Nov 16, 2007, 03:17pm
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Good debate, some more questions I have...

If you do have a bad game can you really have a fresh start the next night?


Absolutely - we do a postgame together - discuss what went wrong. In pregame next night we review how we are going to improve from the previous game.

What would happen to your friendship(s) if something went awry?

We haven't had that problem - we don't blame each other for problems. It isn't a "you missed a rotation", it's we need to watch each other more closely - I didn't feel we did a good enough job at that tonight. I think we are hardest on ourselves than the others. If there was a problem where one is weak - we usually bring it up on our own. "I wasn't with it tonight - I know I missed a couple rotations"

If someone gets sick or hurt is the whole crew done?

This is where you have to adapt. Last year, my 2 man partner had knee surgery in August. I did some games with someone else who was ready to start moving up. My partner came along with us and after game did a critique.

What about the issue of advancement? Do you take that into consideration? Is it a "as the crew goes" mentality? Do you fear that a partner(s) could hold you back because you're now viewed as a single crew? Are you trying to advance only as a crew?

The way our crew works together we don't worry about being "held back". We work together and help each other. If there comes a time I feel I am holding them back - I will step aside and tell them they need to find someone who is able to progress further with them. I feel they would do the same. There may come a time we all say - hey lets cut back - do less or lower level games together.

If this is the best way, then why isn't it this way in College/NBA?
Don't have any idea - but are you implying the College/NBA do it better?
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Old Fri Nov 16, 2007, 04:45pm
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Don't have any idea - but are you implying the College/NBA do it better?
Well, as this thread proves I guess better is in the eye of the beholder. However I do think that at these levels they would tend to do it the best way possible. Would you think that the NCAA/NBA leagues would assign games in a manner that are not in their best interests?
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Old Fri Nov 16, 2007, 05:38pm
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Don't have any idea - but are you implying the College/NBA do it better?
I would say the way they do things is the best way.

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Old Fri Nov 16, 2007, 03:20pm
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Good debate, some more questions I have...

If you do have a bad game can you really have a fresh start the next night?

What would happen to your friendship(s) if something went awry?

If someone gets sick or hurt is the whole crew done?

What about the issue of advancement? Do you take that into consideration? Is it a "as the crew goes" mentality? Do you fear that a partner(s) could hold you back because you're now viewed as a single crew? Are you trying to advance only as a crew?

If this is the best way, then why isn't it this way in College/NBA?
College is a hybrid, actually. Many assignors, but you work with different guys all the time. We could do the same thing here, too, but the assignors want to assign as a pair/threesome so I'd still have to arrange a partner for each conference.

I don't worry about advancement. The playoffs here are assigned......well, the way they are assigned. I worry about the things I control.

My partner works college women's and I will work with more people this year as his schedule grows. I have no desire to work college basketball. I am a good HS official and I'm happy with that.

There have been the occasional strains on friendship, but I think it works better than working with a guy you can't stand and not saying anything post-game because you won't see the guy again for 2 seasons. It was far easier to subscribe to "get in, get done, get out" in that system than when you have 3 more games that week with the same guy.

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Old Fri Nov 16, 2007, 04:38pm
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College is a hybrid, actually.
What leagues/level/region would this be? I'm unfamiliar with any college assignor/league/system using packaged crews (not being derogatory, just couldn't find another way to put it )
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What leagues/level/region would this be? I'm unfamiliar with any college assignor/league/system using packaged crews (not being derogatory, just couldn't find another way to put it )
It's a hybrid in that officials work for multiple assignors. Nobody's exclusive (or I should say forced to be).
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