All alone, I am I am

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Splute

One team had apparently been coached to take charges... everytime the dribble drove to the basket they would scream and fall. After the third time of not getting a call, one player asked what he was doing wrong....

You should reflect upon this POE.

2004-05 POINTS OF EMPHASIS

4. Specific unsporting acts. The committee is concerned about the following specific unsporting acts. Coaches, players and officials must pay particular attention to these areas:

B. 'Flopping.' The defensive player or screener acting as though he or she has been charged by an opponent, when in fact he or she has not been, definitely has an impact on the game. It is detrimental to the best interests of basketball. The "actor" wants to create the false impression that he or she has been fouled in the charging/guarding situation, or while he or she is screening when in either case there is no contact or incidental contact. The "actor" falls to the court as though he or she were knocked down by the force of the contact. Those actions are designed to have a foul charged to the opponent – a foul not deserved. The "flop" also incites spectators. The rules are in place to deal with such activity and must be enforced. A technical foul is charged to the "actor" in all cases. Coaches can have a positive impact by appropriately dealing with players who fake being fouled. It is not a part of the game. Officials must penalize the act.

[Mark Padgett]

Whenever a player flops and then complains that he didn't get the call, I tell him, "the Oscars are in February".

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Whenever a player flops and then complains that he didn't get the call, I tell him, "the Oscars are in February".

And if it happens in February, you say NEXT February. Right?

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

And if it happens in February, you say NEXT February. Right?

Actually, I say something like "next week" or "last week". I try not to work games on Oscar night.

[Adam]

I forgot to add. The biggest key when deciding whether and how to work solo is to ask youself, "WWBD."

For those of you who have been living under a rock, it means "What Would Bhuck Do?" Ol' Bhuck Elics is a legend in these parts.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I forgot to add. The biggest key when deciding whether and how to work solo is to ask youself, "WWBD."

For those of you who have been living under a rock, it means "What Would Bhuck Do?" Ol' Bhuck Elics is a legend in these parts.

Oh, yea, bigger than that Diebler guy for sure.

WWBD is definitely a philosophy to live by in every area of life!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Oh, yea, bigger than that Diebler guy for sure.

WWBD is definitely a philosophy to live by in every area of life!

I know I struggle to do this consistently. It's really such a tall order.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Oh, yea, bigger than that Diebler guy for sure.

WWBD is definitely a philosophy to live by in every area of life!

I know the squirrels in these parts have that philosophy.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I forgot to add. The biggest key when deciding whether and how to work solo is to ask youself, "WWBD."

For those of you who have been living under a rock, it means "What Would Bhuck Do?" Ol' Bhuck Elics is a legend in these parts.

Is this him?

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Is this him?

Snaqs? Dan? Scrappy? ALmost anyone? This ought to be good!

[Splute]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

You should reflect upon this POE.

2004-05 POINTS OF EMPHASIS

4. Specific unsporting acts. The committee is concerned about the following specific unsporting acts. Coaches, players and officials must pay particular attention to these areas:

B. 'Flopping.' The defensive player or screener acting as though he or she has been charged by an opponent, when in fact he or she has not been, definitely has an impact on the game. It is detrimental to the best interests of basketball. The "actor" wants to create the false impression that he or she has been fouled in the charging/guarding situation, or while he or she is screening when in either case there is no contact or incidental contact. The "actor" falls to the court as though he or she were knocked down by the force of the contact. Those actions are designed to have a foul charged to the opponent – a foul not deserved. The "flop" also incites spectators. The rules are in place to deal with such activity and must be enforced. A technical foul is charged to the "actor" in all cases. Coaches can have a positive impact by appropriately dealing with players who fake being fouled. It is not a part of the game. Officials must penalize the act.

I only have last years books and this years. But this is good to know. I do know it is in the rules, however, my chapter "recommended" we not call the Tech for flopping. I do agree this behavior incites others, including parents who believe their child was hit; i witnessed it. Perhaps I should say something directly to the player and coach? Or if I give a Tech, it would certainly stop, I would just have a coach screaming that I blew the call and it wasnt a flop. It seems to me if the players are coached to do this, then they do not understand why they do not get the call, they get frustrated and begin to play rough. Perhaps a warning for the first flop and a tech for subsquent flops? Should this be discussed in pregame talk with coaches and then inforeced?

[Nevadaref]

I have to give a thumbs down to that recommendation by your local association. Why do they feel that they know better than the NFHS committee?
That said, if you are looking for something between calling nothing and immediately calling a T, you could call the first instance a blocking foul. That works for some people.

Personally, I think that we should just enforce the rules. That will clean up the game.

[Splute]

I will reconfirm with my association that I understand what they are trying to do in this situation and mention your POE from 2004-05. Perhaps I misunderstood how they want us to address it. I will give the block some thought, although it really wasnt. Neither player seemed affected on the play, other than the acting and the player having to scramble off the floor, looking at his coach with his hands in the air..... (will juulie get upset if I say he screamed like a girl? )
Thanks.

[Nevadaref]

Just to be clear I'm not saying that a block is the correct call. It certainly isn't in cases of no contact. However, it is a call that some people use in this situation and is an idea that I thought to share with you.