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Old Wed Nov 07, 2007, 01:50pm
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NFHS exam part 1 question #34

'The resumption-of-play procedure starts over in each situation and a violation in one situation does not carry over to another.' T or False?

This question caused a lengthly discussion at our association meeting last night. We're still not sure of the correct answer but went with the majority rules of False. Can someone provide a rules cite please? Thanks.
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Old Wed Nov 07, 2007, 01:59pm
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True. 7-5-1, 8-1-2
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Old Wed Nov 07, 2007, 02:01pm
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34 is True - 7.5.1 and 8.1.2
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Old Wed Nov 07, 2007, 02:13pm
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True. 7-5-1, 8-1-2
This is one of the 5 questions that I'm still undecided on. The bold lettering is the part of the question that I don't understand.

'The resumption-of-play procedure starts over in each situation and a violation in one situation does not carry over to another.' T or False?


Anyone care to make up/provide a sitch to help me understand this better?
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Old Wed Nov 07, 2007, 02:25pm
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This is one of the 5 questions that I'm still undecided on. The bold lettering is the part of the question that I don't understand.

'The resumption-of-play procedure starts over in each situation and a violation in one situation does not carry over to another.' T or False?


Anyone care to make up/provide a sitch to help me understand this better?
That is the part that caused our lack of understanding as well. I don't see where the rules the have been posted explain why the answer would be true.
Maybe I'm overthinking the question and it's plain as day
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Old Wed Nov 07, 2007, 02:49pm
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That is the part that caused our lack of understanding as well. I don't see where the rules the have been posted explain why the answer would be true.
Maybe I'm overthinking the question and it's plain as day
Play: In the first quarter, after a TO, team B is still in the huddle after the second horn. The official puts the ball at the disposal of Team A who inbounds and scores. Team B leaves the huddle to pick up the ball and continue play.

In the 4th quarter, after a TO, team B is again still in the huddle after the second horn. The official immediately assesses a Technical Foul for delaying the game. Is the official correct?

Answer: No.

(The test question is designed to test whether officials understand the difference between a delay warning -- which does affect future delays, and the RPP).
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Old Wed Nov 07, 2007, 02:53pm
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So your sitch is to explain how the answer to the question is False?
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Old Wed Nov 07, 2007, 02:53pm
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That is the part that caused our lack of understanding as well. I don't see where the rules the have been posted explain why the answer would be true.
Maybe I'm overthinking the question and it's plain as day
What situation would have the RPP affecting a future RPP procedure?
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Old Wed Nov 07, 2007, 03:01pm
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So your sitch is to explain how the answer to the question is False?
No.

In my situation, the official had the violation carry over from one situation to the next. The official was wrong. So, the statement "a violation DOES NOT carry over" must be True.

Try this:

Play: Team B remains in the huddle. The official puts the ball in play. Later, Team B again remains in the huddle. The official again puts the ball in play. Coach A complains that Team B should also be assessed a T. The official tells the coach to STFU. Is the official correct?

Answer: Yes.
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Old Wed Nov 07, 2007, 03:11pm
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The official tells the coach to STFU. Is the official correct?
Trick question - you didn't say the official was Dan.
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Old Wed Nov 07, 2007, 03:14pm
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'The resumption-of-play procedure starts over in each situation and a violation in one situation does not carry over to another.' T or False?

This question caused a lengthly discussion at our association meeting last night. We're still not sure of the correct answer but went with the majority rules of False. Can someone provide a rules cite please? Thanks.
The answer is False (see 7-5-1 c&d)
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Old Tue Nov 13, 2007, 07:48pm
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The answer is False (see 7-5-1 c&d)
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Old Thu Nov 15, 2007, 11:14am
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I believe the answer is true. Refer to Case Book 7.5.1 and the comment that follows.
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Old Thu Nov 15, 2007, 07:45pm
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I'm missing something. I've only just started my 2nd year officiating so I'm just trying to make sure I understand.

Team A's throw-in following a timeout. A is not ready for play, official places the ball on the floor and gives a 5-count. Whistle, violation on A. Now Team B's throw-in. This is according to the RPP.

Future throw in for Team A. A does not make a thrower available. Official places the ball on the floor and gives a 5-count. According to 7-5-1c this isn't this a T? So when the question says "a violation in one situation does not carry over to another" why isn't the answer false? Doesn't the previous violation carry over, therefore B is shooting 2 for the Technical?
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