Overture....then I hit a flat note

[just another ref]

This is a perfect example of a call which prompts the question: When is it too late? Frank, how much time had passed when the coach made this comment and you realized what had happened? Group, we have a rule of thumb on this or just play it by ear? IOW, must we make this call "immediately," whatever that means, before the violator passes the ball, or.....when?

[Splute]

You would expect to call this right away. If it is missed, I do not believe it is a game breaker. In reality, we are just determining who gets the ball first and setting the AP. No biggie in my opinion.... other than living with the fact you started the game on a sour note.