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Camron Rust Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:07pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by KSRef07
BTW, my 300 games a year of which 60% are varsity level - my bad - I did not mean they were interscholastic V games - just V level.
At least he had the integrity to be honest about the games he works...not pretending that they are something they're not.

If an official works a rec league with 17/18 year-olds, that doesn't make him a varsity ref any more than working 20/21 year-olds makes someone a college ref!

Mark Padgett Wed Nov 14, 2007 01:08pm
Since we're into personal histories, here's mine FWIW.

I was born on November 3, 1948, the day after the presidential election at Chicago Lying-in Hospital. My home town newspaper, the Chicago Tribune, published the infamous "Dewey Defeats Truman" headline the morning I was born. The hospital is at the University of Chicago and my mother always said I was a lab experiment gone wrong.

We moved to the suburb of Chicago Heights when I was in 3rd grade and I grew up there. I went to Bloom HS (class of 65). Other "famous alumni" include Jerry Colangelo and Jim Bouton. Also, Gary Alan Carr, who was convicted of murder, extortion and kidnapping in conjunction with the Madeline Murray O'Hare family murders a few years ago. Gary and I were buddies in Jr. HS. He ran a stolen bike ring in 7th grade and actually left HS his first year to spend the rest of his boyhood in juvie detention.

In HS I played tennis and was a kicker on the football team (not actually a real player). I started HS at age 12 and was elected president of our Junior Achievement company. At the time, I was the youngest person in the organization's history ever to hold that position.

My life changed dramatically when, while attending Northern Illinois University, I was abducted by aliens and probed for a few years. I was returned to earth where I was not capable of performing any functions other than being an official.

Someday I hope to return to human form.

rainmaker Wed Nov 14, 2007 01:11pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
Since we're into personal histories, here's mine FWIW.

I was born on November 3, 1948, the day after the presidential election at Chicago Lying-in Hospital. My home town newspaper, the Chicago Tribune, published the infamous "Dewey Defeats Truman" headline the morning I was born. The hospital is at the University of Chicago and my mother always said I was a lab experiment gone wrong.

We moved to the suburb of Chicago Heights when I was in 3rd grade and I grew up there. I went to Bloom HS (class of 65). Other "famous alumni" include Jerry Colangelo and Jim Bouton. Also, Gary Alan Carr, who was convicted for murder, extortion and kidnapping in conjunction with the Madeline Murray O'Hare family murders a few years ago. Gary and I were buddies in Jr. HS. He ran a stolen bike ring in 7th grade and actually left HS his first year to spend the rest of his boyhood in juvie detention.

In HS I played tennis and was a kicker on the football team (not actually a real player). I started HS at age 12 and was elected president of our Junior Achievement company. At the time, I was the youngest person in the organization's history ever to hold that position.

My life changed dramatically when, while attending Northern Illinois University, I was abducted by aliens and probed for a few years. I was returned to earth where I was not capable of performing any functions other than being an official.

Someday I hope to return to human form.
Way, way, way TMI!!!

Mark Padgett Wed Nov 14, 2007 02:09pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by rainmaker
Way, way, way TMI!!!
I didn't even mention my main mission here on Earth is to eradicate the dreaded Barry Manilow cult. This disease must not spread to the rest of the galaxy. :eek:

Nevadaref Wed Nov 14, 2007 08:06pm
It is a shame that some have discouraged KSref from continuing to post on this forum. The argument that developed was silly. I hope that he continues to read the forum and perhaps someday will change his mind and post again. Different viewpoints and opinions help all of us.

Best wishes to KSref for a good season.

rainmaker Wed Nov 14, 2007 08:48pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevadaref
It is a shame that some have discouraged KSref from continuing to post on this forum. The argument that developed was silly. I hope that he continues to read the forum and perhaps someday will change his mind and post again. Different viewpoints and opinions help all of us.

Best wishes to KSref for a good season.
Couldn't have said it better. Thanks NV

Jurassic Referee Wed Nov 14, 2007 09:27pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevadaref
The argument that developed was silly.
Are you talking about his stance that dunking in pre-games should be ignored by officials? And his comment that if he was still coaching, he'd make sure that anyone that called a "T" for a pre-game dunk would never work in his gym again?

The argument that developed about that was silly?

The argument about what a coach in Kansas is allowed to do in their coaching was a completely different matter. That's why we e-mailed trying to get some kind of definitive answer. Well, we never did get an answer of any kind. We did get a response from a Kansas official that said that they do have some related language in place, but basically in real life the coaching box in Kansas was being called just about the same way as it was being called in other states---->they don't care what the coach does as long as he stays in the box and leaves the officials alone.

Nevadaref Wed Nov 14, 2007 09:33pm
I was referring to the whole "don't tell me what to post" mess.

just another ref Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:31pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
Since we're into personal histories, here's mine FWIW.

I was born on November 3, 1948, the day after the presidential election at Chicago Lying-in Hospital. My home town newspaper, the Chicago Tribune, published the infamous "Dewey Defeats Truman" headline the morning I was born. The hospital is at the University of Chicago and my mother always said I was a lab experiment gone wrong.

We moved to the suburb of Chicago Heights when I was in 3rd grade and I grew up there. I went to Bloom HS (class of 65). Other "famous alumni" include Jerry Colangelo and Jim Bouton. Also, Gary Alan Carr, who was convicted of murder, extortion and kidnapping in conjunction with the Madeline Murray O'Hare family murders a few years ago. Gary and I were buddies in Jr. HS. He ran a stolen bike ring in 7th grade and actually left HS his first year to spend the rest of his boyhood in juvie detention.

In HS I played tennis and was a kicker on the football team (not actually a real player). I started HS at age 12 and was elected president of our Junior Achievement company. At the time, I was the youngest person in the organization's history ever to hold that position.

My life changed dramatically when, while attending Northern Illinois University, I was abducted by aliens and probed for a few years. I was returned to earth where I was not capable of performing any functions other than being an official.

Someday I hope to return to human form.
This story sounds suspicious to me. Who would have voted for you for Junior Achievement president?

Lcubed48 Thu Nov 15, 2007 07:49am
Mark's A Hero!!!
 
:confused: Now, I know why I consider this alien/human a hero-o-mine. It doesn't have anything to do with his sense of humor or his use of meds.
The year of our births - 1948.
The state of our high schools - Illinois. (Bloom -1965) (Effingham - 1966).
The place of our college attendance - Northern Illinois University.

Jimgolf Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:44am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Aren't there any other current Kansas officials here who can verify one way or the other?
No, there's a shortage.

rockchalk jhawk Fri Nov 16, 2007 01:07pm
I know this thread may be dead, but I did notice this today when reviewing some stuff for the upcoming season. This is taken off of the KSHSAA website from the page found here: http://www.kshsaa.org/BASKETBALL/PDF...ouncements.pdf

COACHING BOX
The Executive Board has approved the
optional six-foot (6’) coaching box for the
2007-08 season. Only the HEAD COACH
may be off the bench in front of his/her
seat within the confines of the designated
coaches’ box to give instructions to his/
her players and/or substitutes. The head
coach may:
• Stand to instruct (coach) then,
• Sit down
• Not kneel, squat, pace or stand
during a live ball.
Coaches not complying are to be assessed
the appropriate penalty of a technical
foul. Once either a direct or indirect “T”
is assessed, the coach(es) MUST comply
with provisions of Rule 10-5-1 and 10-5-2
for the remainder of the game. Officials
SHALL file the appropriate report on
Loss of Coaching Box Privilege Form
(2007-08 Blue). The form may also be
submitted online by logging into the officials
website.

Ch1town Fri Nov 16, 2007 01:12pm
*wow*
That's what I call keeping the coach in check! 6 feet huh...

I bet it takes the fun out of it though & it must be one helluva transition from HS ball to the college level.

Mark Padgett Fri Nov 16, 2007 01:16pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by just another ref
This story sounds suspicious to me. Who would have voted for you for Junior Achievement president?
FWIW - our product that year was custom designed doormats! No, I am not kidding. The following year, we sold first aid kits. My junior year, I left J.A. because something else was taking up too much of my time. It's called "girls". :)

Mark Padgett Fri Nov 16, 2007 01:19pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lcubed48
:confused: Now, I know why I consider this alien/human a hero-o-mine. It doesn't have anything to do with his sense of humor or his use of meds.
The year of our births - 1948.
The state of our high schools - Illinois. (Bloom -1965) (Effingham - 1966).
The place of our college attendance - Northern Illinois University.
Where did you stay on campus? I lived in the Theta Chi house as an independent. I never really wanted to join a frat but I didn't want to live in a dorm with all the "common people", so this seemed like a good compromise.

BTW - where the heck is Effingham and what took you so long to graduate HS? ;)


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