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Old Thu Oct 25, 2007, 11:21am
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pinching the paint

I just wanted to start a discussion about pinching the paint. The pre-season stuff I've been to for NCAA women's and men's as well as my main HS assignor's camp have really been stressing this. Personally I'm a little uncomfortable being there, but I'm working on it. It is just a big change in thought but I can see the benefits as far as getting better angles. Anyone else with thoughts on this? I'm just curious.
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Old Thu Oct 25, 2007, 11:30am
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I just wanted to start a discussion about pinching the paint. The pre-season stuff I've been to for NCAA women's and men's as well as my main HS assignor's camp have really been stressing this. Personally I'm a little uncomfortable being there, but I'm working on it. It is just a big change in thought but I can see the benefits as far as getting better angles. Anyone else with thoughts on this? I'm just curious.

I think is a good concept to use especially in 3 whistles. It allows you to maintain your angles and shorten the distance across the lane once the ball swing opposite of your initial location. One thing you must be mindful of is when you pinch the paint don't pinch the endline(the closer towards it) it will distort you depth perception
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Old Thu Oct 25, 2007, 11:59am
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I do not know what about pinching the paint, but I have been taught to close down. And closing down is what you do when the ball is on the other side of the lane and you are about to rotate. You do not stay in that position very long and if the ball kicks back to your side, you move out to mirror the ball to some extent.

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Old Thu Oct 25, 2007, 12:08pm
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I do not know what about pinching the paint,
"Pinch the paint" is an expression that means to take a step into the paint to officiate certain situations. Perhaps a drive that comes from the C side, or a spin move on the opposite block. It's trying to get people out of the mindset that it's ALWAYS bad to be between the lane lines.
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Old Thu Oct 25, 2007, 12:18pm
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If that is what that means, then that is a bad idea in my opinion. You are not going to have a very good angle and you also might get hurt. And that is not something I would ever teach.

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Old Thu Oct 25, 2007, 12:45pm
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It is being taught extensively on the women's side. I was at Patty Broderick's camp in Chicago and if you don't pinch for her, you don't work for her. She watched me work a game and physically pushed me over into the paint (I kinda liked it!!! HAHA!!) Once you master it, it really does give you a much better view when accepting a play coming from C, or the spin move like Scrapper said. When in Rome.....

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Old Thu Oct 25, 2007, 12:48pm
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This is what the CCA mechanic book says about "pinching the paint."

"Pinching the paint" is when the lead, from the close-down position, takes a step or two into the imaginary extended paint area when a drive is coming from the center's side of the court or down the middle.

"The lead still has secondary coverage in this play, with the official where the play originated having primary coverage. As soon as the drive is complete and shot is taken, the lead should take a position for the best possible rebounding coverage. That will typically be back to the close-down position."

To my understanding, the use of this technique is to help the "C" with secondary defender. Often by just being in the "close down" position, the lead official gets "straightline" with the player driving to the basket and the secondary defender. I think it helps getting a better look at the play and using this technique will increase the chances of calling the play right.
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I just wanted to start a discussion about pinching the paint. The pre-season stuff I've been to for NCAA women's and men's as well as my main HS assignor's camp have really been stressing this. Personally I'm a little uncomfortable being there, but I'm working on it. It is just a big change in thought but I can see the benefits as far as getting better angles. Anyone else with thoughts on this? I'm just curious.
I believe this mentality was started in the SEC, back in Gurfrie's days and it make a lot of sence. It also give you a better look at plays that you normally not see due to bad angles.
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Old Thu Oct 25, 2007, 02:55pm
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I believe this mentality was started in the SEC, back in Gurfrie's days and it make a lot of sence. It also give you a better look at plays that you normally not see due to bad angles.
And when officials that came from that system would go to other camps, they would be told to stop using them. I have been to camps in the south and in the Midwest and much of Gurfrie's mechanics were widely frowned upon.

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And when officials that came from that system would go to other camps, they would be told to stop using them. I have been to camps in the south and in the Midwest and much of Gurfrie's mechanics were widely frowned upon.

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Old Thu Oct 25, 2007, 03:09pm
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I guess when you were in Rome, you did what Romans did!!!!!
I don't know about Rut, but I'm pretty sure Padgett did as the Romans did; otherwise he risked a very unpleasant conversation with Caesar.
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And when officials that came from that system would go to other camps, they would be told to stop using them. I have been to camps in the south and in the Midwest and much of Gurfrie's mechanics were widely frowned upon.

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Check the latest hires in past several years of the NBA, the majority came from Gufirie's system, so apparently someone ain't frowning on em.

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Old Thu Oct 25, 2007, 04:18pm
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This concept got a lot of attention at a camp I was at in Florida this summer. Almost all the clinicians were NCAA men's officials and they were really stressing it.
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Old Thu Oct 25, 2007, 05:04pm
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Check the latest hires in past several years of the NBA, the majority came from Gufirie's system, so apparently someone ain't frowning on em.

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Those individuals were not at an NBA camp. So what the NBA thinks and what the NCAA thinks is not quite the same thing. And if you talk people in the NCAA, they do not look highly on officials in that league just because they are in the NBA. Kind of like, "When in Rome...."

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