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Old Fri Oct 19, 2007, 02:47pm
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With Mark, my guess is he actually did these things. But, if you look, he also said, "You can do this kind of thing in a rec league game." That's the key.
I did look and I realize what he said.

Maybe in you area made free throws are special events worthy of a gladhand from the ref, but around here free throws are pretty routine even in the 3rd and 4th grade, now if it was 3 and 4 yr olds on a regulation hoop maybe.

And as far as the dunk from the 6'3" kid, what about the 30 footer from the 4'6" kid? Are you stopping the game there too?

Rec or not, where does it end? There are enough issues with "look at me" now we're encouraging it.
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Old Fri Oct 19, 2007, 03:06pm
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Rec or not, where does it end? There are enough issues with "look at me" now we're encouraging it.
I may be getting in trouble for speaking for Mark, but I believe he does it because at that age, winning or losing doesn't matter; playing the game does. Maybe in your area, 3rd and 4th grade games are very important to kids' D-1 scholarships. In that case, you need to call the game with the same seriousness as any varsity-level contest. In Mark's case, I heard he's been around since the year after dirt was invented, so he may not feel the need to convince anyone of his officiating abilities, and he may be trying to convey a slightly different level of seriousness at those levels.

It also takes a certain personality to be able to pull it off, even there. Maybe you and I doing things like that will come off as self-serving; maybe Mark doing it makes the kids look and feel good about the accomplishment. What works for one official, even at the highest levels, may not work for another. What works at one level may not work at another as well.
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Old Fri Oct 19, 2007, 03:15pm
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I did look and I realize what he said.

Maybe in you area made free throws are special events worthy of a gladhand from the ref, but around here free throws are pretty routine even in the 3rd and 4th grade, now if it was 3 and 4 yr olds on a regulation hoop maybe.

And as far as the dunk from the 6'3" kid, what about the 30 footer from the 4'6" kid? Are you stopping the game there too?

Rec or not, where does it end? There are enough issues with "look at me" now we're encouraging it.
Oooohh...the slippery slope, always one of my favorites!

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I may be getting in trouble for speaking for Mark,
Don't worry, he'll swoop in saying it's all just a joke and in the meantime Juulie will be defending his words by offering explanations that would make a pretzel cringe in pain.

Anyways...carry on!

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Old Fri Oct 19, 2007, 03:15pm
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That's why I don't officiate volleyball; I was never a big fan of the game, so it would be hard for me to spend the time needed learning the game. (There's something different about naked beach volleyball though, right JR?...)
Well, unlike you, I'm really not that fond of watching the men's bracket.
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Old Fri Oct 19, 2007, 03:17pm
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Well, unlike you, I'm really not that fond of watching the men's bracket.
I hear he owns the unrated director's cut version of the nutty buddy film...
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Old Fri Oct 19, 2007, 03:19pm
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I hear he owns the unrated director's cut version of the nutty buddy film...
I'm just curious as to how they keep them attached.

Staples?
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Old Fri Oct 19, 2007, 03:23pm
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I'm just curious as to how they keep them attached.

Staples?
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Old Fri Oct 19, 2007, 03:25pm
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I may be getting in trouble for speaking for Mark, but I believe he does it because at that age, winning or losing doesn't matter; playing the game does. Maybe in your area, 3rd and 4th grade games are very important to kids' D-1 scholarships. In that case, you need to call the game with the same seriousness as any varsity-level contest.
I never said anything about d-1 scholarships. I never said it was win at all costs. I never said to call it like a varsity district final. I said that made free throws for 8 and 9 year olds are routine events that don't have cause for glorious celebration.

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It also takes a certain personality to be able to pull it off, even there. Maybe you and I doing things like that will come off as self-serving; maybe Mark doing it makes the kids look and feel good about the accomplishment. What works for one official, even at the highest levels, may not work for another. What works at one level may not work at another as well.
I'm sure that the kids get enough touchy feely from the helos but otherwise what you say is true.

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Old Fri Oct 19, 2007, 03:27pm
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I hear he owns the unrated director's cut version of the nutty buddy film...
Real men don't need no nutty buddy. Yesiree, no matter how fast it comes in, ol' Wilbur'll knock it right back at 'em jes' as quick.

Just like a Louisville Slugger....32 1/2 ounces of the finest wood.

Another thread right down the ol' crapper, eh?
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Old Fri Oct 19, 2007, 03:28pm
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Real men don't need no nutty buddy. Yesiree, no matter how fast it comes in, ol' Wilbur'll knock it right back at 'em jes' as quick.

Just like a Louisville Slugger....32 1/2 ounces of the finest wood.

Another thread right down the ol' crapper, eh?
cough cough
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Old Fri Oct 19, 2007, 03:30pm
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cough cough
I feel your empathy.

Will you feel mine?
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Old Fri Oct 19, 2007, 03:33pm
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I feel your empathy.

Will you feel mine?
where's my tweezers...

Hey!

They're geezer's tweezers!

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Old Fri Oct 19, 2007, 03:34pm
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Don't worry, he'll swoop in saying it's all just a joke and in the meantime Juulie will be defending his words by offering explanations that would make a pretzel cringe in pain.

Anyways...carry on!

Wow, that's so empathetic of you.
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Old Fri Oct 19, 2007, 03:39pm
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Wow, that's so empathetic of you.
Dan is the epitome of empathy....... nay,a veritable Emperor of Empathy.

You could call him the empathy President.
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Old Fri Oct 19, 2007, 03:40pm
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where's my tweezers...

Hey!

They're geezer's tweezers!

Geezer's tweezers
can pick up freezers.

It's true, it's true........
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