New interps Sitch # 10

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Simultaneous would be the meeting of BEFORE and AFTER at the same time and place...I think you're making this way more difficult than it really is...

No...Before and After have very clear meanings.

Let's say that the very instant that the ball was touched in the backcourt was with 4:23.000 on the clock. Simultanous is anything that happens exactly at 4:23.000. Before that would be 4:22.999. If the ball gains backcourt status at 4:23.000, the player would have had to touch it no later than 4:22.999 for it to be a violation. But then, it would have gained backcourt status at 4:22.999 and the player would have had to touch it at 4:22.998....

So, the player can never touch it before it goes into the backcourt at the same time as it gains backcourt status.

It is physically impossible in this universe to, at the same time, touch the ball before you touch the ball.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

No...Before and After have very clear meanings.

Let's say that the very instant that the ball was touched in the backcourt was with 4:23.000 on the clock. Simultanous is anything that happens exactly at 4:23.000. Before that would be 4:22.999. If the ball gains backcourt status at 4:23.000, the player would have had to touch it no later than 4:22.999 for it to be a violation. But then, it would have gained backcourt status at 4:22.999 and the player would have had to touch it at 4:22.998....

So, the player can never touch it before it goes into the backcourt at the same time as it gains backcourt status.

It is physically impossible in this universe to, at the same time, touch the ball before you touch the ball.

Camron, I agree with you. Plus the actual text of the rule says that he has to be the last to touch the ball "in the frontcourt", not when the ball has frontcourt status. To me that means the player or his teammate would have to be "in the frontcourt" or the player has to have frontcourt status.

In this case the player has backcourt status.

[Adam]

Why does "in the frontcourt" have to refer to the player and not the ball?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Why does "in the frontcourt" have to refer to the player and not the ball?

If it does refer to the ball we still have a conflict because of the word "before."
If the player is in the backcourt he was not touched "before it went to the backcourt."

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Let's say that the very instant that the ball was touched in the backcourt was with 4:23.000 on the clock.

Camron - please tell me what gym in this area has a clock with a "thousands of a second" indicator. I will work to have it declared a tourist attraction.

[TimTaylor]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Camron - please tell me what gym in this area has a clock with a "thousands of a second" indicator. I will work to have it declared a tourist attraction.

Well, I did hear a story once about some super secret facility at the Nike complex...... [/I]