Officiating Resources

[DaQuickster]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

22) The closely guarded rule is in effect in frontcourt only, when a defender is within six feet of the ball handler. Up to three separate five-second counts may occur on the same ball handler, holding, dribbling, and holding. The count continues even if defenders switch. The five-second count ends when a dribbler gets his or her head and shoulders ahead of the defender.

Question: What does it mean when it states "Up to three separate five-second counts may occur on the same ball handler, holding, dribbling, and holding."?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by DaQuickster

Question: What does it mean when it states "Up to three separate five-second counts may occur on the same ball handler, holding, dribbling, and holding."?

1. Player catches the ball and is holding it while closely guarded. Official starts a five second count.
2. Player starts dribbling. Official starts another 5 second count.
3. Player stops dribbling and holds the ball. Official starts another 5 second count.

As long as the official never reaches 5, it's all legal; and there were three separate 5 second counts.

[DaQuickster]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

1. Player catches the ball and is holding it while closely guarded. Official starts a five second count.
2. Player starts dribbling. Official starts another 5 second count.
3. Player stops dribbling and holds the ball. Official starts another 5 second count.

As long as the official never reaches 5, it's all legal; and there were three separate 5 second counts.

Wow I didn't know this one. Does the NCAA have the same rule?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by DaQuickster

Wow I didn't know this one. Does the NCAA have the same rule?

How did you think it worked?

As far as I know, the NCAA is identical on this.

[DaQuickster]

You don't want to know. Thanks everyone for setting me straight!

Question: Other than the great talks on this forum, what resources should I get (buy) to make sure I have all the rules, etc.

[Adam]

I'd start with the Rule Book.

www.nfhs.org

[Splute]

As a newbie myself, I strongly recommend buying the Rules book and case book as a minimum. They go hand in hand. I also bought the Officials manual and Illustrated book. I have read these thru a few times but you do not always grasp the full intent of the rule the first time through. As evident by this forum, many do not get it for years.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

How did you think it worked?

As far as I know, the NCAA is identical on this.

Wimmen are different.

Really.

I'm not kidding.

Isn't the NCAA Wimmens for "holding the ball" only? And you can call it both in the front and backcourts? And their distance is 3 feet as opposed to 6'?

Other than that......

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Wimmen are different.

Yeah, so?

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Wimmen are different.

Really.

I'm not kidding.

Isn't the NCAA Wimmens for "holding the ball" only? And you can call it both in the front and backcourts? And their distance is 3 feet as opposed to 6'?

Other than that......

Yes, yes, and yes...so what? You gonna make something of it??

Actually I don't care if you do, just in a pissy mood today!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Yes, yes, and yes...so what? You gonna make something of it??

Actually I don't care if you do, just in a pissy mood today!

That time of the month?

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Wimmen are different.

Really.

I'm not kidding.

I've noticed. They're kinda soft and purty.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

I've noticed. They're kinda soft and purty.

Some are. Some er just differnt.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

I've noticed. They're kinda soft and purty.

It wasn't until 7th grade that I discovered girls weren't just soft, lumpy boys.

[CoachP]

Originally Posted by DaQuickster

Question: What does it mean when it states "Up to three separate five-second counts may occur on the same ball handler, holding, dribbling, and holding."?

A1 may hold the ball almost to the end of the 5 second "closely guarded" count. Just before his 5 seconds expire, A1 starts his dribble and a new 5 second count begins..if he remains closely guarded. Just before that 5 second count expires, A1 may pick up his dribble and hold the ball for another 5 second count. That's 3 five second counts in 15 seconds. Before the 3rd five second count expires, A1 must shoot, pass or request time out to avoid a violation.