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Old Wed Aug 08, 2007, 10:56am
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I noticed that the losing coach came onto the floor (as well as his assitant) wanting a T called. Wouldn't he also get a T for a coaching box violation? (Again as well as his assistant)

My view- game over, go home and wait for the SH*T to hit the fan! Maybe consider a new vocation.
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Old Thu Aug 09, 2007, 02:50pm
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The only part that isn't horrible about this is the foul that was called -- but that was an easy, obvious call.

You have to put time back on the clock. At least 0.3 seconds -- maybe more, but you couldn't see the clock the entire video.

As played, they didn't put time back on the court, so when the kids makes the first free throw the game is over -- you can't call a technical for the team rushing the court when the game is over. This is no different than them rushing onto the court when the clock hits 0.0 and the buzzer sounds.

If you whistle a foul before the buzzer, put time back on the clock!
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Old Thu Aug 09, 2007, 04:28pm
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I don't know. This entire situation imo stinks. The lead should have displayed a little more hustle to either get into postion and let the play come to him. I cannot say the amount of contact warranted a foul call in that situation because the level allowed the entire game I am not aware of. The situation was not good. It showed that there my not have been a thorough pre-game or discussion towards the end of the game on how to handle situation like the one which occurred.
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Old Thu Aug 09, 2007, 04:40pm
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The only part that isn't horrible about this is the foul that was called -- but that was an easy, obvious call.[/b]

Really? That was an obvious foul to you? A kid with his hands straight up and pretty much backing away from the offensive player who was trying to draw contact. It could possibly be a foul, don't get me wrong, but from that angle it was far from obvious, imo. Had he kept coming towards the offensive player and submarine him when he went up, that, I would have considered obvious.
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Old Thu Aug 09, 2007, 04:44pm
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Really? That was an obvious foul to you? A kid with his hands straight up and pretty much backing away from the offensive player who was trying to draw contact. It could possibly be a foul, don't get me wrong, but from that angle it was far from obvious, imo. Had he kept coming towards the offensive player and submarine him when he went up, that, I would have considered obvious.
Yes - very obvious imo. The kid body bumps the offensive player as he shoots and knocks him off balance and to the floor. Watch the defender's feet -- he is not backing away.

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Old Thu Aug 09, 2007, 05:06pm
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Yes - very obvious imo. The kid body bumps the offensive player as he shoots and knocks him off balance and to the floor. Watch the defender's feet -- he is not backing away.

"Protect the shooter"
Agree. The defender put his hands up and then chested him. Good call on the foul despite the terrible position the L was in.
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Old Thu Aug 09, 2007, 05:27pm
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I disagree with this being an "obvious" foul. It might have been a foul, but that is up to the judgment of the official. The defender is allowed to get in the way of the defender. I think the shooter was a little out of control and caused some of the contact. I also do not think the lead was in the best position to make the call either way.

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Old Thu Aug 09, 2007, 07:25pm
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Buzzer?

Apparently the buzzer sounded? I didn't hear it.
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Old Fri Aug 10, 2007, 01:52pm
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Yes - very obvious imo. The kid body bumps the offensive player as he shoots and knocks him off balance and to the floor. Watch the defender's feet -- he is not backing away.

"Protect the shooter"
What in the world do you mean by that? Sorry I see now that you were responding to an earlier post.

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Old Fri Aug 10, 2007, 01:55pm
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What in the world do you mean by that?
What I mean is that the defender moves into the shooter as he takes his shot.
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Old Fri Aug 10, 2007, 02:01pm
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Question,

Don't have my books with me. I didn't hear the horn sound in the video (it may have, but I didn't hear it). Do I remember correctly that if the clock reads 0:00 but the horn has not yet sounded, there is still time on the clock, albeit less than 1/10 of a second, and in this case if the horn didn't sound, they should line up and shoot with people in the lane spaces?
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Old Fri Aug 10, 2007, 02:04pm
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Question,

Don't have my books with me. I didn't hear the horn sound in the video (it may have, but I didn't hear it). Do I remember correctly that if the clock reads 0:00 but the horn has not yet sounded, there is still time on the clock, albeit less than 1/10 of a second, and in this case if the horn didn't sound, they should line up and shoot with people in the lane spaces?
Assuming the buzzer was set to automatically sound, yes.
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Old Fri Aug 10, 2007, 02:04pm
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Yes - that is the rule.
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