New Rule

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Now, maybe I'm joining Adam in a windmill-chasing excursion, but I'm leaning towards agreeing that the illegal touch caused the ball to become dead immediately, therefore the clock should not have started. If I remember right, one of the rules fundamentals is "The official's whistle doesn't cause the ball to become dead; it is already dead."

Try remembering rule 5-9-4 instead. You're treating it as if it doesn't exist.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Try remembering rule 5-9-4 instead. You're treating it as if it doesn't exist.

I'm not treating it as if it doesn't exist, I'm not sure it applies over and above the other issues I mentioned.

We now know the kicking violation means the throw-in is not completed. This settles the past arguments over whether the "touch" happens before the violation. We now know the violation happens first, and the ball is dead before the throw-in is completed. This gives me definite information that the clock should not have started, and allows me to apply 5-10-1. The timer may not know whether the touch is legal or not, and properly started it, but I can use my definite knowledge to correct it and put the time back on.