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M&M Guy Sat Jul 14, 2007 01:47pm
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Geeze, I missed that one somehow. Hilarious. I'm trying to find out what <b>"alma-no on alma-no"</b> is now.That one isn't in the English/OldSchool dictionary either.
Maybe he's against a certain college in Michigan?:

http://www.alma.edu/

Perhaps he had a bad experience in Wisconsin:

http://www.almawisconsin.com/

Or, perhaps he's against adoptees in general:

http://www.almasociety.org/

BLydic Sat Jul 14, 2007 02:38pm
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Originally Posted by Old School
I'm going to let you in on a secret. While researching the code on the APTI, I came across a case play where I totally kicked one. It was a boys varsity game and I was the R and I really wanted to jump toss the ball, good jumpers in the game. Well, in the pregame, one of the good jumpers dunked the ball. Stupid, I was looking the other way but my partner caught it. I tried to get my partner to let it go, so that I could still do the toss, he said no. Well, what I did was a player on the opposition team touch the rim on the way down as the teams was coming off the court for the introductions. Wah-la! I got a T on you for grabbing the rim, therefore making it a double T and we start the game with a jump. Classic, I got my jump ball back! Right! Woops, we did it wrong but I didn't realize until several years later. Most officials might not have something like that happen in a career of officiating. Therefore, you would not know the unique difference in the rule.
I'm sorry JMO, but whether you adjudicated the situation correct or not, you are a very scary official.

Mark Padgett Sat Jul 14, 2007 03:13pm
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Originally Posted by Old School
I'm not going to sit here and brawl beat another official
WOW! I had to wipe my brawl before I understood this one! :eek:

Mark Dexter Sat Jul 14, 2007 03:42pm
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Geeze, I missed that one somehow. Hilarious. I'm trying to find out what <b>"alma-no on alma-no"</b> is now.That one isn't in the English/OldSchool dictionary either.
A foster no?

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Sat Jul 14, 2007 05:24pm
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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
MTD - I'm sure this is a typo. You're not suggesting the ball can be a personal foul, are you? ;)

Mark:

I corrected the typo in my original post. BUT, from personal experience contact with a ball can be very satisfying. :eek:

MTD, Sr.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Sat Jul 14, 2007 05:36pm
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Geeze, I missed that one somehow. Hilarious. I'm trying to find out what <b>"alma-no on alma-no"</b> is now.That one isn't in the English/OldSchool dictionary either.

JR:

Maybe Old Fool, opps, I mean Old School, meant: "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da" by the Beatles.

MTD, Sr.

Nevadaref Sat Jul 14, 2007 08:17pm
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Originally Posted by Old School
I'm going to let you in on a secret. While researching the code on the APTI, I came across a case play where I totally kicked one. It was a boys varsity game and I was the R and I really wanted to jump toss the ball, good jumpers in the game. Well, in the pregame, one of the good jumpers dunked the ball. Stupid, I was looking the other way but my partner caught it. I tried to get my partner to let it go, so that I could still do the toss, he said no. Well, what I did was a player on the opposition team touch the rim on the way down as the teams was coming off the court for the introductions. Wah-la! I got a T on you for grabbing the rim, therefore making it a double T and we start the game with a jump. Classic, I got my jump ball back! Right! Woops, we did it wrong but I didn't realize until several years later. Most officials might not have something like that happen in a career of officiating. Therefore, you would not know the unique difference in the rule.
Obviously you do not know the "unique difference" between touching the ring/basket and grasping the ring/basket? Therefore, I'll just tell you that first is legal, while the second is not.

So, you actually screwed up TWICE on this play. Not only did you fail to administer the technical foul that you called properly, something which you now say that you are aware, but you were in fact also WRONG to assess it in the first place, and clearly you aren't aware of this error.

Once again...http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...es/roflmao.gif

Old School Sun Jul 15, 2007 04:02pm
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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
Obviously you do not know the "unique difference" between touching the ring/basket and grasping the ring/basket? Therefore, I'll just tell you that first is legal, while the second is not.

So, you actually screwed up TWICE on this play. Not only did you fail to administer the technical foul that you called properly, something which you now say that you are aware, but you were in fact also WRONG to assess it in the first place, and clearly you aren't aware of this error.

Once again...http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...es/roflmao.gif
Actually, the laughs on you because what did we do? We went double technical, jump ball. So you can laugh all you want. What I wanted to happen, happen! http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...es/roflmao.gif

Scary thought isn't it? Another thing that I'm sure nobody thought of but me. The player I gave the T to was a deep bench player. The coach had his starting players in a huddle while the rest of the pack was still coming off the floor. As they say in the Guiness beer commericals, brillant, brillant! Why don't all you referee haters go have a Guiness brew on me. Take a break off all the hating, and don't worry, I'm human, I will make another mistake on the court and I might even share it with you so you can point out the mistake to everyone and feel complete. Brillant! Brillant!!!!

Jurassic Referee Sun Jul 15, 2007 04:35pm
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Originally Posted by Old School
Actually, the laughs on you because what did we do? We went <font color = red>double technical, jump ball</font>. So you can laugh all you want. What I wanted to happen, happen!
Scary thought isn't it?
Yup, you made it happen, for sure. I hate to break it you though, but the rules won't allow you to call a double technical foul in that situation either. The only scary thought is that one day somebody might make a biiiiiig mistake and put you on a real game. Of course, the good thing is that nobody would probably notice that you screwed up again anyway in the rec leagues that you do.

Double technical fouls, by definition, can only happen when two opponents commit technical fouls <b>against each other</b> at approximately the <b>same</b> time.

And if you've ever heard of the term "simultaneous technical fouls", fuggedaboutit. That ain't gonna fly either. What you did isn't allowable by rule.

Silly monkey. You keep trying but it's tough to do something by the rules when you don't own any rule books. No wonder everybody is always http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...es/roflmao.gif at you.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Sun Jul 15, 2007 05:45pm
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Originally Posted by Old School
Actually, the laughs on you because what did we do? We went double technical, jump ball. So you can laugh all you want. What I wanted to happen, happen! http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...es/roflmao.gif

Scary thought isn't it? Another thing that I'm sure nobody thought of but me. The player I gave the T to was a deep bench player. The coach had his starting players in a huddle while the rest of the pack was still coming off the floor. As they say in the Guiness beer commericals, brillant, brillant! Why don't all you referee haters go have a Guiness brew on me. Take a break off all the hating, and don't worry, I'm human, I will make another mistake on the court and I might even share it with you so you can point out the mistake to everyone and feel complete. Brillant! Brillant!!!!

Old (Fool) School:

I will have a Guiness on you if you will start drinking that Kool-aid you want everybody to drink.

MTD, Sr.

Mark Padgett Sun Jul 15, 2007 06:52pm
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Originally Posted by Old School
As they say in the Guiness beer commericals, brillant, brillant! Brillant! Brillant!!!!
What's a "brillant"? Is that an ant wearing a Brillo pad? Brilliant you ain't. ;)

Oh yeah - I don't know what a "commerical" is either. Is that a commercial they show only in California? :confused:

Nevadaref Sun Jul 15, 2007 07:34pm
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Originally Posted by Old School
Actually, the laughs on you because ...

As they say in the Guiness beer commericals, brillant, brillant! Why don't all you referee haters go have a Guiness brew on me. Take a break off all the hating, and don't worry, I'm human, I will make another mistake on the court and I might even share it with you so you can point out the mistake to everyone and feel complete. Brillant! Brillant!!!!
No, we're still laughing at you. :p

That's simply classic! :D

Adam Mon Jul 16, 2007 08:43am
Either:
1. Your area is desparate for varsity officials.
or
2. You're lying. I can't imagine any varsity official I know who carries such a juvinile attitude. Rainman is an official, "I want to have a jump ball. Definitely, I want to have a jump ball. Sometimes, Dad lets me throw the toss in the driveway."

Old School Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:36am
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
The only scary thought is that one day somebody might make a biiiiiig mistake and put you on a real game.
Yea, that's happen quite a bit. To the tune of about 120 last season along. Here's the ironic thing, all of the games ended normally, no controverscy, just normal! Amazing isn't it. Amazing that a guy can get over a hundred varsity hs and college games and not own a rulebook. You know what, it's time for me to start taking some credit of my own. I'm good, no, I'm damn good because i have never cheated on the HS test, and I pass it every year without a rulebook. Damn I good, thanks for pointing that out.

Enough arguing with you guys today. Got real work to do....I'm out

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:41am
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Originally Posted by Old School
Yea, that's happen quite a bit. To the tune of about 120 last season along. Here's the ironic thing, all of the games ended normally, no controverscy, just normal! Amazing isn't it. Amazing that a guy can get over a hundred varsity hs and college games and not own a rulebook. You know what, it's time for me to start taking some credit of my own. I'm good, no, I'm damn good because i have never cheated on the HS test, and I pass it every year without a rulebook. Damn I good, thanks for pointing that out.

Enough arguing with you guys today. Got real work to do....I'm out

Old School:

What city and state do you officiate H.S. basketball? And where do you officiate college basketball?

Please tell us? We all want to know so that we can verify your experience.

MTD, Sr.


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