Um, not if they are wearing their uniform properly, you can't. You also can't keep them from coming right back in either.

Why play games? Use the rules that you have; just call what happens.

RULE 4
SECTION 18 FIGHTING
Fighting is a flagrant act and can occur when the ball is dead or live. Fighting includes, but is not limited to combative acts such as:
ART. 1 . . . An attempt to strike, punch or kick an opponent with a fist, hands, arms, legs or feet regardless of whether contact is made.
ART. 2 . . . An attempt to instigate a fight by committing an unsporting act toward an opponent that causes an opponent to retaliate by fighting.

That is the text of the rule. I highlighted and underlined what I believe would make the first unsporting act qualify as fighting. If the retaliation action of fighting doesn't take place, I can't say that by rule the first act could be considered fighting. It is just an unsporting act.

You could say that, but I would advise you to deal in concrete specifics instead of trying to make a rule fit a situation. Keep it simple and go with what you've got. In this case don't bother with the fighting issue, just apply the definition of a flagrant foul to the actions of these players and use that as your basis for DQing them. It makes for a more straightforward report and you won't be second-guessed nearly as much as you would if open yourself up by trying to justify invoking the fighting rule.

Just my opinion. ;)

Not trying to sound like an esoteric, Mr Know-It-All smart a$$ nor meaning to go way off topic, but this action does not metaphorically describe a "scrum". In rugby, a scrum is a set, controlled movement to put a dead ball back in play with an equal number of positioned opposing players. A scrum most certainly is not a random, flailing, helter-skelter, looks-like-a-soccer-brawl type action. Instead, the jabillions and jazillions of people who incorrectly refer to any example of a cluster-f*** as a scrum would perhaps be more correctly describing a "ruck" or a "maul", actions to keep a live ball in play which can, indeed, sometimes appear to be a cluster-f***.

Sorry. As on old rugger it just always pains me a bit to hear a scrum (one of the few things on a rugby pitch that I actually had some skill at) so disparaged. Okay, off the soapbox and back to life as I know it........:rolleyes:

I agree that you can't send them out if they are wearing it properly, but I said for failure to wear the uniform properly.

Too late. :p

Scrum:
2. British. a place or situation of confusion and racket; hubbub.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/scrum

OUCH!:eek: That one has to hurt doesn't it CornDog.......:D

Agreed. I wasn't married to my position. I was more bored at home then anything.:D . That and i haven't played with the kids in this sandbox in awhile.....

Scrum:
2. British. a place or situation of confusion and racket; hubbub.


DOH! :o I'm taking my fat, overblown football (along with my fat, overblown, bruised ego) home and not letting the rest of you play! :p :D

But in my defense, what do the Brits know about the English language? :rolleyes:

You know, the old chap has a point. :)

There are things that I would do in summer league that I would not do in a varsity contest. #1.) ejecting players in a big game where there was no contact, might lend the opinion you are not ready to work at this level. you gonna play the biggest baddest card in the deck, we need to see blood or a viscous act, like an elbow that missed.

#2.) Listen to your senior partner because he makes a lot of sense. I'd send them to the bench or just give them a double technical. Giving them double flagrant/ejections seems overkill to me but I was not there, so I withhold my judgment on the play.

What I mean by doing things different in summer versus winter. In summer league, go to the bench. Emotions can and do run very high and out of control in this game, especially in the hotter climates of America. With that being said, I had a summer league game where I should have called a flagrant or at least an intentional, but hesitated and it turned out to be the worse game I ever had because retaliation and it was a mess. Parents squared off on each other at the end of the day. My point is, don't hesitate to take care of business and it sounds like you did, you just did it too good, and in this one case, too good can be too bad.

I'm glad you're not a real ref, 'cause I'd hate to work a game with you.

I've ejected for less, and would gladly do it again.

A wise man once said exactly the same thing.

For instance actually officiate the game! :p

:confused: Was this run through one of those foreign language translators?

Hell, I'd hate to work a game with you if you're tossing players for minor stuff. What the heck you gonna do when a real problem comes along? Show some balls and try a little game management before you pull the trigger. I mean think about something more then yourself on the court.

Did you ever consider, grandpa or Aunt Mary drives a 100miles to see Billy play for the first time, and he/she gets ejected in the first quarter because him and another player was going after a loose ball, all out, which is the way the coaches want you play, and trigger happy it's all about me referee ejects Billy and opponent because he didn't like the way they looked at each other when they got up off the ground, after diving for the ball. No blood, no punches thrown, just good ole fashion hustle. I guess if you never played the game at that level you wouldn't understand.

Hell no, I wouldn't want to work with you either........