Most Misunderstood Basketball Rules

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

From rainmaker: "Moving screens?"

From "List": "13) If a blind screen is set on a stationary defender, the defender must be given one normal step to change direction and attempt to avoid contact. If a screen is set on a moving defender, the defender gets a minimum of one step and a maximum of two steps, depending on the speed and distance of the defender."

rainmaker: What would you like me to do to make this item more clear? thanks for your inut.

I'm not Juulie, but I'd re-word this to be a bit less referee-speak. I'd probably start by saying that a moving screen is not in and of itself a foul. Then explain that contact must occur for a foul to be called and briefly describe what makes a legal/illegal screen.

[BillyMac]

13) If a blind screen is set on a stationary defender, the defender must be given one normal step to change direction and attempt to avoid contact. If a screen is set on a moving defender, the defender gets a minimum of one step and a maximum of two steps, depending on the speed and distance of the defender. A moving screen is not in and of itself a foul, contact must occur for a foul to be called.

Thanks to Mark Dexter and rainmaker.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Mark Dexter

I'm not Juulie, but I'd re-word this to be a bit less referee-speak. I'd probably start by saying that a moving screen is not in and of itself a foul. Then explain that contact must occur for a foul to be called and briefly describe what makes a legal/illegal screen.

Billy, your change is a good improvement, but I'd go even further, or farther, depending on which English teacher you studied under. As Dexter said, I'd start right off with the sentence "The moving screen is not in and of itself a foul, blah, blah, blah..." Or even give that item a sort-of title "13. Moving Screens. A screen can move sideways or even forward without being illegal..." and so on. This will attract the attention of the reader much more effectively than starting with a jargon-ish "blind screen".

[BillyMac]

13) A moving screen is not in and of itself a foul, contact must occur for a foul to be called. If a blind screen is set on a stationary defender, the defender must be given one normal step to change direction and attempt to avoid contact. If a screen is set on a moving defender, the defender gets a minimum of one step and a maximum of two steps, depending on the speed and distance of the defender.

Thanks again rainmaker.

[lrpalmer3]

The Golden Rule states:

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

Not:

"Do unto others as they do unto you."

This rule is one of the most misunderstood.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by lrpalmer3

The Golden Rule states:

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

Not:

"Do unto others as they do unto you."

This rule is one of the most misunderstood.

In my old neighborhood on the South Side of Chicago, it was "Do unto others before they had a chance to do unto you."

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

In my old neighborhood on the South Side of Chicago, it was "Do unto others before they had a chance to do unto you."

My dad said it like this: "Do one to others before they do one to you!"

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

13) A moving screen is not in and of itself a foul, contact must occur for a foul to be called. If a blind screen is set on a stationary defender, the defender must be given one normal step to change direction and attempt to avoid contact. If a screen is set on a moving defender, the defender gets a minimum of one step and a maximum of two steps, depending on the speed and distance of the defender.

Thanks again rainmaker.

Billy, this is good. I think it helps to start off with fan-speak, and it gets the attention of the reader. I like it.

[bigdogrunnin]

7) The shooter can retrieve his or her own airball, if the referee considers it to be a shot attempt. The release ends team control. It is not a violation for that player to start another dribble at that point. When an airborne player keeps control of an attempted shot that is blocked and is unable to release the ball and returns to the floor with it, that player has not traveled; it is a jump ball. If, in this situation, the shooter releases the ball, then this is simply a blocked shot and play continues.

Question . . .

My understanding of the rule ("highlighted above") is that if the defender and the offensive player are BOTH still in contact with the ball we would have a jump ball; however, if the defender is no longer in contact with the ball and the offensive player comes back to the floor still holding the ball, then we would have a traveling violation on the offensive player. What is the correct interpretation?? Thanks.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by bigdogrunnin

7) The shooter can retrieve his or her own airball, if the referee considers it to be a shot attempt. The release ends team control. It is not a violation for that player to start another dribble at that point. When an airborne player keeps control of an attempted shot that is blocked and is unable to release the ball and returns to the floor with it, that player has not traveled; it is a jump ball. If, in this situation, the shooter releases the ball, then this is simply a blocked shot and play continues.

Question . . .

My understanding of the rule ("highlighted above") is that if the defender and the offensive player are BOTH still in contact with the ball we would have a jump ball; however, if the defender is no longer in contact with the ball and the offensive player comes back to the floor still holding the ball, then we would have a traveling violation on the offensive player. What is the correct interpretation?? Thanks.

Your statement is not necessarily correct. You can have either a travel or a held ball....or...you can also have a player legally return to the floor with the ball without a defender still contacting the ball.

- if the defender touches the ball in the airborne shooter's hands and the shooter now lands on the court---> traveling only if the touch didn't affect the release of the ball or held ball if the touch did affect the release of the ball. Both are judgment calls.
- if a defender touches the ball after the shot has left the shooter's hands, and the shooter now recovers the ball in the air, the shooter can legally land..and dribble, shoot, pass, etc.
- if the defender knocks the ball out of the airborne shooter's hand(s), the shooter can also recover the ball and then legally land with it...and dribble, shoot, etc.

Dem's the different calls.

[Damian]

Make sure that they are aware that after the ball is released, a defender may break the plane to defend the throw in. However, an offensive player may not break the plane to catch the throw in. It must cross the plane into the court area to be a legal throw in.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Damian

Make sure that they are aware that after the ball is released, a defender may break the plane to defend the throw in. However, an offensive player may not break the plane to catch the throw in. It must cross the plane into the court area to be a legal throw in.

Good point but I believe that the "List" is already too long. Anybody else in Forum-Land see the need to add this to the "List"?