New "AP Legal Touch" Rule/Different Interpretation

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

The freaking arrow!!! How many freaking times do you have to be told that? The defensive team commits a violation, and by doing so, they gain an AP.

JR, how do they gain the arrow by kicking the ball? they would have gotten the arrow, so they gained nothing.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

JR, how do they gain the arrow by kicking the ball? they would have gotten the arrow, so they gained nothing.

The defensive team would have got the arrow if the ball had been legally touched. If the AP switches on the defensive violation, as OS wants it to and you seem to agree with, the defensive team gains the arrow by committing a violation.

[Mark Padgett]

Can't we just go back to jump balls, the way the good Lord intended?

[bob jenkins]

OMFG!

We had this debate on what the rule *should be* several times before they changed it. Now we've had it at least three times since they changed it.

Makes Don Quixote seem sane.

[CoachP]

OS,Snaq:

A1 has ball OOB on an AP throw in.
B1 slaps ensuing throw-in OOB.
A retains throw-in because B1 caused the ball to go OOB.
A loses arrow because they blew their AP throw in.
B1 gains arrow with good, legal defense.
A blew their AP throw-in. Period.

Now, insert above, "B1 kicked the ball on ensuing throw-in."
With new rule wording, A1 retains throw-in (for the kick violation), and retains arrow.
B does NOT GET THE ARROW, now, for bad, "violation causing" defense.

The old way, B would be rewarded the arrow for a kick violation, not for good defense.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Makes Don Quixote seem sane.

Wasn't he Diebler's point guard?

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Can't we just go back to jump balls, the way the good Lord intended?

When this thread started I had not received my Sportorial and, for some reason, could not access my online copy of it. And since I have been too busy officiating at team camps and watching my sons play baseball I did not want to get involved in this thread until I had had a chance to read Sportorial and see what it said. I am glad to see that Peter Webb clarified the Sportorial article.

And, yes, Mark has the right idea: GO BACK TO JUMP BALLS.

MTD, Sr.