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Old Tue Jun 26, 2007, 09:53am
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Okay lets break down what the referee can do to correct a timing error.

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RULE 5
SECTION 10 TIMER'S MISTAKES


ART. 1 . . . The referee may correct an obvious mistake by the timer to start or stop the clock properly only when he/she has definite information relative to the time involved. The exact time observed by the official may be placed on the clock.
ART. 2 . . . If the referee determines that the clock was not started or stopped properly, or if the clock did not run, an official's count or other official information can be used to make a correction.


Art 1 states that you must have "definite information" to correct a timing mistake.

Art 2 states that the official can use "other official information".


Play 1:
There is a foul and a whistle with 0.5 seconds showing but the timer doesn't stop the clock. No officials observe the "exact time" on the clock.

Question 1a:
Are we allowed to ask the timer or scorer if they saw the amount of time on the clock? I would say that this is "other official information".

Question 1b:
No one in the gym (officials, table crew, coaches, mom in stands) observed the amount of time on the clock but the officials are 100% positive that the whistle came before the horn. We have definite information that at least 0.1 seconds should be on the clock (Rule 5-10-2) so shouldn't this be the amount of time we put back on the clock?

Question 1c:
Everthing is the same in the above play except the official observes 0.2 seconds on the clock before it expires. We have definite information that at least 0.2 seconds should be on the clock (Rule 5-10-1) and this is what is put on the clock. If you look at the 2 underlined sentences they are identical except for the amount of time, the way that the information was gathered and the rule applied. Does Art 2 allow us (by rule) to put 0.1 seconds on the clock without having to observe it?
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Old Tue Jun 26, 2007, 12:28pm
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Originally Posted by All_Heart
If you look at the 2 underlined sentences they are identical except for the amount of time, the way that the information was gathered and the rule applied.
That is to say, they're not even similar.
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Old Tue Jun 26, 2007, 12:39pm
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That is to say, they're not even similar.
LOL I guess that didn't make much sense.

My point was that in each you have definite information that there is at least a certain amount of time on the clock. You just get that information a different way.

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