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Old Thu Jun 14, 2007, 08:44am
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I think you have to call a block for safety reasons.
And to keep the coach happy......

That's the two main reasons to make any call.
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Old Thu Jun 14, 2007, 08:54am
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And to keep the coach happy......

That's the two main reasons to make any call.
Also you have to be a State Final Official to get these calls correct as well. If you work D1 or college you are in big trouble.

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Old Thu Jun 14, 2007, 09:05am
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Also you have to be a State Final Official to get these calls correct as well. If you work D1 or college you are in big trouble.
If you need me for anything further, I'll be right over here.....
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Old Thu Jun 14, 2007, 12:52pm
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If you need me for anything further, I'll be right over here.....
Put the popcorn away, I'm ignoring his remark...the one I'm sure is against forum rules.

And for what it's worth...the defender had both feet on the floor facing, and WASN'T moving forward at the point of contact. The question becomes was there control by the offensive player.

It's close, but no there wasn't...block.
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Old Thu Jun 14, 2007, 01:02pm
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Put the popcorn away, I'm ignoring his remark...the one I'm sure is against forum rules.

And for what it's worth...the defender had both feet on the floor facing, and WASN'T moving forward at the point of contact. The question becomes was there control by the offensive player.

It's close, but no there wasn't...block.
I've looked at this video over and over (as shown on You Tube...is there another way to download it and go frame-by-frame?). I just don't see that the player had stopped moving forward at the time the contact started. He was facing but it appeared he was just getting both feet down at the time of contact. I see the body as still shifting forward over the feet at the time of contact.

If you can show me a better way to watch the video, I'd be willing to revise my opinion if I see different.
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Old Thu Jun 14, 2007, 01:59pm
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I've looked at this video over and over (as shown on You Tube...is there another way to download it and go frame-by-frame?). I just don't see that the player had stopped moving forward at the time the contact started. He was facing but it appeared he was just getting both feet down at the time of contact. I see the body as still shifting forward over the feet at the time of contact.

If you can show me a better way to watch the video, I'd be willing to revise my opinion if I see different.
That's what I saw too, and I only watched it once. I think even if the dark-jerseyes player had control, that the defender didn't get legal guarding position -- it appeared to me that he violated the offensive player's vertical space.
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Old Thu Jun 14, 2007, 01:19pm
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Put the popcorn away, I'm ignoring his remark...the one I'm sure is against forum rules.
Translation: I do not have an answer for his question, so I have to make it seem like I am ignoring him even though I purposely used your reference for this response.

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Old Thu Jun 14, 2007, 01:30pm
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Translation: I do not have an answer for his question, so I have to make it seem like I am ignoring him even though I purposely used your reference for this response.

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Let's see I went back to the thread from the other day, I never saw your question until just now.

Second, I find it funny that someone who goes out of his way to down play working a final, which is an accomplishment every HS official looks forward to doing one day, very telling.

My take, and the answer to your question, is that you want to hide behind the numbers/experience excuse. That's easier than admitting that maybe, just maybe, you aren't as good as you think you are.
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Old Thu Jun 14, 2007, 01:49pm
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Something to munch on.

"If you were to ask an official and a coach how important an official was to a football game, responses would be light years apart, but in reality, an official is probably twice as important as a coach thinks he is, but only half as important as he thinks he is." - Neil Payne

Maybe it works for ability too.
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