So another one of those block/charge calls

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

I am joining the thread late, but I have watched this play in real time at least twenty times (everytime in real time, not slow motion), and I would call this a charge. I first time I watched this video I did not make a decision because I wanted to see where the foul was so that I could then attempt the watch the place is if I were officiating the game.

Now before I go any further, I will admit that this play is the classic example of a bang-bang play. I do not think that I could critize an official for calling this a block.

I think this was a charge whether B32 had control of the ball or did not have control of the ball at the time of contact. I agree that when obtaining a legal guarding position against a player who does not have control of the ball, that time and distance is a factor. But remember the speed of the offensive player determines the time and distance that the defender must give. It was my judgement that B32 was not moving at the moment that W11 obtained a legal guarding position, therefore, W11 could be as close to B32 as possible short of contact when he obtained a legal guarding position against B32.

Once again, this is a judgement call and it was a very very close play.

MTD, Sr.

[Nevadaref]

Well stated, MTD, and similar to what I wrote back in post #3.

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Yes guys, I found another one of these.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NR_pexM1GdU

I want to say that the call was called correctly with the block, but of course there's probably something I'm missing that's obvioius. So what do you guys think, and could you explain your thought process behind your call?

On another note, I'd like to thank everyone for the helpful responses in the previous thread. You don't know how helpful this will be for me in the fall.

If you look at the video and see where the contact occurs, it is clearly a block. Another thing to look at is the legs of the defender, they are outside of shoulder width. Just my 2 cents.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by IREFU2

If you look at the video and see where the contact occurs, it is clearly a block.

We did. Some of disagree.

Originally Posted by IREFU2

Another thing to look at is the legs of the defender, they are outside of shoulder width. Just my 2 cents.

And....?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by IREFU2

Another thing to look at is the legs of the defender, they are outside of shoulder width.

What difference would that make when the contact wasn't on the defender's legs?

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

What difference would that make when the contact wasn't on the defender's legs?

I was looking at his position and it "looked" like his legs were bowed out. But, pure judgement on my behalf. So lets just take it for what is worth.....peace.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by IREFU2

I was looking at his position and it "looked" like his legs were bowed out. But, pure judgement on my behalf. So lets just take it for what is worth.....peace.

Do you know why it don't matter where the legs were if the contact is on the torso?

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Do you know why it don't matter where the legs were if the contact is on the torso?

Of course, I am not a first year official.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by IREFU2

Of course, I am not a first year official.

From you statements, it sure didn't come across like you knew.

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

From you statements, it sure didn't come across like you knew.

Hmmm, I think you all are reading too much into what I said. I was just making other observations about the defender. Sorry to peak everyone's interest in my post.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by IREFU2

Hmmm, I think you all are reading too much into what I said. I was just making other observations about the defender. Sorry to peak everyone's interest in my post.

I can accept that.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by IREFU2

Hmmm, I think you all are reading too much into what I said. I was just making other observations about the defender. Sorry to peak everyone's interest in my post.

No, i read it just as it was posted. Why talk about the defender's position and where the contact occured causing it to be a block and follow it with a comment on the legs being stuck out if you're not talking about the legs being related to the call?

[Boiler14]

Sorry to bring this thread back to page 1.

I had a block.

I never understand why teams don't put players in the lane to rebound. White IMO should have done this.

My main reason for posting is I just wanted to see if anyone noticed the fan to the right on the video wanting a travel. He was pretty emphatic about.

Now that would have been the safest call to make!

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by Boiler14

My main reason for posting is I just wanted to see if anyone noticed the fan to the right on the video wanting a travel. He was pretty emphatic about.

Well...since we are bringing this post back to life...and it is a slow Friday at work...let us examine a couple of other things on this video.

BTW...Boiler...nice spot on the fan gesturing travel.

A couple observations on the "bald" official...

* It looks like he hustles well. (Got the ball while his partner gave foul signals to the table...hopefully 3rd official was observing players)

* It looks like he could SLOW down just a bit....take a deep breath before he administers the FT's to the White team. (Looked like there could have been a FT violation on the first FT, on a miss...opponent coming in late to the lane...and even on the second FT the official was almost throwing the ball to the FT shooter before his teammate was in his spot) TAKE YOUR TIME!

* At the conclusion of the game...the bald dude turned his tail and ran. I know some officials like to run for the exits at the end of a game...but, I like to at least wait for my partners and go off together. A brisk walk or jog to the exits is cool..but, at least turn around and look to see if your partner is making it away from the mayhem. If the official, that made the "controversial" call, had been attacked...I'm not sure his partners would have seen it to help or make a report about it.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

A couple observations on the "bald" official...

* It looks like he could SLOW down just a bit.... TAKE YOUR TIME!

* At the conclusion of the game...the bald dude turned his tail and ran.

Very easily explained, Dude-y. Bald officials get dehydrated much quicker than officials with hair. It is a scientific fact that moisture is lost at a much faster rate through the top of a bald person's head than it does for us foliated officials. It's similar, science-wise, to global warming because caused partially by the loss of rain forests. This means that there is a much greater medical urgency for officials with wide parts like the one in the film to re-hydrate themselves as soon as possible at the end of games. To do so, they use an approved procedure known as "Brownpop Therapy".

That is why Dan_Ref for instance looks like a cross between Speedy Gonzalez and the RoadRunner at the end of a game.

It's true, it's true........