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Old Thu May 31, 2007, 10:11am
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"Referee the Defense" is NOT the same as "Referee ONLY the Defense"
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Old Thu May 31, 2007, 10:26am
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Bingo.

OK, we have a clear answer.

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Old Thu May 31, 2007, 10:45am
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Old Thu May 31, 2007, 10:49am
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Request denied, since you are not the original poster of the thread.
yeahbut I slept in a holiday inn last night...anyway

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Old Thu May 31, 2007, 11:05am
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I am going to have to piggy back on what many people have said. Referee the defense is an "all the time" practice. You watch the defense so you are not surprised when contact occurs. And you do not just pay attention to the player guarding immediately, you watch the other players as well. So when a ball handler goes to the lane, you are not surprised when contact occurs.

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Old Thu May 31, 2007, 11:18am
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I am going to have to piggy back on what many people have said. Referee the defense is an "all the time" practice. You watch the defense so you are not surprised when contact occurs. And you do not just pay attention to the player guarding immediately, you watch the other players as well. So when a ball handler goes to the lane, you are not surprised when contact occurs.

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I agree 100% with your philosophy. I just find that the words "Referee the Defense" aren't the best way to teach it. It gives the idea of ignoring the offense. I really prefer "See the Whole Play". It helps a person understand that it's all importnat.
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Old Thu May 31, 2007, 11:37am
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I agree 100% with your philosophy. I just find that the words "Referee the Defense" aren't the best way to teach it. It gives the idea of ignoring the offense. I really prefer "See the Whole Play". It helps a person understand that it's all importnat.
I do not like the terminology "See the whole play" at all. That terminology does not focus on where you are watching and why.

The philosophy is not just about the verbiage and only the verbiage. This is about getting the average person away from only watching the ball handler and having a play blow up on them without see everything. If you just say "see the whole play" does not tell someone the defense is the key. After how can you call a block/charge call without knowing if the defender was not legal in their movement?

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Old Thu May 31, 2007, 11:42am
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I agree 100% with your philosophy. I just find that the words "Referee the Defense" aren't the best way to teach it. It gives the idea of ignoring the offense. I really prefer "See the Whole Play". It helps a person understand that it's all importnat.
"See the whole play" refers to being wide enough to see everything you need to see AND waiting, allowing the play to develop and then make a call, if neccesary.
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Old Thu May 31, 2007, 06:08pm
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If the ball handler starts dribbling in the lane, pick up the defenders and what they are trying to do. This usually makes the call a lot easier.
Ruts stuff here is good and I agree 100%. Just to add to it a bit under this statement, be aware of a possible secondary defender coming over and either taking the charge or committing the foul himself. In boys play, HS JV or Varsity and above, some of these guys come out of nowhere and I think calls are missed because we weren't aware of their presence until after we put everything together in our minds -- often when we are heading back the other way.

The way I like to do it is think about what defense their in: zone, man, combo. Then break it down some more. This helps keeps me alert in games where we are at risk of drifting.
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