Referee the Defense

[JRutledge]

I am going to have to piggy back on what many people have said. Referee the defense is an "all the time" practice. You watch the defense so you are not surprised when contact occurs. And you do not just pay attention to the player guarding immediately, you watch the other players as well. So when a ball handler goes to the lane, you are not surprised when contact occurs.

Peace

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I am going to have to piggy back on what many people have said. Referee the defense is an "all the time" practice. You watch the defense so you are not surprised when contact occurs. And you do not just pay attention to the player guarding immediately, you watch the other players as well. So when a ball handler goes to the lane, you are not surprised when contact occurs.

Peace

I agree 100% with your philosophy. I just find that the words "Referee the Defense" aren't the best way to teach it. It gives the idea of ignoring the offense. I really prefer "See the Whole Play". It helps a person understand that it's all importnat.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

I agree 100% with your philosophy. I just find that the words "Referee the Defense" aren't the best way to teach it. It gives the idea of ignoring the offense. I really prefer "See the Whole Play". It helps a person understand that it's all importnat.

I do not like the terminology "See the whole play" at all. That terminology does not focus on where you are watching and why.

The philosophy is not just about the verbiage and only the verbiage. This is about getting the average person away from only watching the ball handler and having a play blow up on them without see everything. If you just say "see the whole play" does not tell someone the defense is the key. After how can you call a block/charge call without knowing if the defender was not legal in their movement?

Peace

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

I agree 100% with your philosophy. I just find that the words "Referee the Defense" aren't the best way to teach it. It gives the idea of ignoring the offense. I really prefer "See the Whole Play". It helps a person understand that it's all importnat.

"See the whole play" refers to being wide enough to see everything you need to see AND waiting, allowing the play to develop and then make a call, if neccesary.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I do not like the terminology "See the whole play" at all. That terminology does not focus on where you are watching and why.

The philosophy is not just about the verbiage and only the verbiage. This is about getting the average person away from only watching the ball handler and having a play blow up on them without see everything. If you just say "see the whole play" does not tell someone the defense is the key. After how can you call a block/charge call without knowing if the defender was not legal in their movement?

Peace

You're right that defense is key on the block/charge, and that the ref needs to keep close track of that. And that new people need to learn how to not watch the ball-handler only.

But the OP is now having trouble keeping track of the offense, because he's doing too much Refereeing the Defense. I think for him, and probably others, See the Whole Play, with the appropriate explanations, will be more useful.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

You're right that defense is key on the block/charge, and that the ref needs to keep close track of that. And that new people need to learn how to not watch the ball-handler only.

But the OP is now having trouble keeping track of the offense, because he's doing too much Refereeing the Defense. I think for him, and probably others, See the Whole Play, with the appropriate explanations, will be more useful.

The reason in my mind the OPer is having trouble is the fact he has tunnel vision. I would be that he is only looking at or two players and this is why he is surprised when a secondary defender comes into the picture. When a ball handler comes to the paint, you have to start paying attention to where the other defenders are so that you are not shocked when one comes out of no where and there is some contact. Refereeing the defense also helps you see screens and off ball activity which can be more important. Anyone can simply watch the ball.

Also seeing the whole play is about not making a call too quick before the result or advantage/disadvantage is determined. In other words making a block/charge call when the defender clearly flops applies as well. Or making a hand check call but the ball handler blows by the defender and has an opportunity for an easy lay-up or pass that leads to a easy lay-up.

Just like anything in this world some people are going to get it and others will never understand no matter what terminology is. Maybe he will never understand or it was not explained to him properly. We call do not learn the same and we all do not pick things up at the same rate. But based on what he said I do not see this as an issue with the verbiage, I see this as an issue of having tunnel vision and not seeing everything around one or two players. He might not even have a good concept of the coverage area and how to move to get better angles in that coverage area.

Peace

[Junker]

There's lots of good stuff on this thread. Kind of a nice suprise after all the NBA stuff that's been floating around here lately. My question is for the OP. How do you know you're missing calls? Are you watching tape, or do you just feel like you're missing stuff?

[Old School]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Refereeing the defense is a concept, not just about where you look. You do not only watch the defense and forget about everyone else. Refereeing the defense is about being aware of what the defense is doing.

Very well stated. It is a concept but if you are just watching the defense, then you certainly will not see illegal screens. You have to learn to balance this with all the other duties you have to perform that day. Rainmaker point below regarding LGP is crucial in all violations involving illegal contact, not just block/charge.

Originally Posted by rainmaker

"Referee the Defense" is great advice for the block/charge situation. It's not intended to be an overall reffing philosophy. It means to be sure you're not so intent on ball-handling that you don't know whether or not the defender has LGP, which is the crucial item in the block/charge call.

Better advice for general play is to See the Whole Play, or See Through the Play. If you have a good angle and are keeping a "whole play" mentality, you'll never miss an offensive foul. Well, I guess never is a little strong, but you won't miss many.

I think what you mean to say here is "See the Whole Play Through." Let the play complete itself and judge by that. For example, if a guy dunks the ball, but there's contact on the play, seeing the whole play thru, you can judge that the contact was incidental to the player scoring and therefore no need to call a foul. If the player misses the dunk, seeing the whole play thru means this same contact could be ruled a foul judging that the contact caused the player to miss. That's just one example.

[blindzebra]

How about a check list of what is the most important?

1. Position: Be positioned to get the widest view possible, be positioned to see through the players.

2. Find the defense: I like find better than referee the defense since it doesn't lead to over focusing on the defender.

3. Know the status of the ball: Where is it? Have they dribbled? Which is their pivot?

4. Don't tunnel vision on the match up: Work to see through the on-ball match up, to include as many players as possible in your primary.

You do all 4 and you will see the play, know LGP, won't miss violations by the offense, and won't be surprised by screens or secondary defenders.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

How about a check list of what is the most important?

1. Position: Be positioned to get the widest view possible, be positioned to see through the players.

2. Find the defense: I like find better than referee the defense since it doesn't lead to over focusing on the defender.

3. Know the status of the ball: Where is it? Have they dribbled? Which is their pivot?

4. Don't tunnel vision on the match up: Work to see through the on-ball match up, to include as many players as possible in your primary.

You do all 4 and you will see the play, know LGP, won't miss violations by the offense, and won't be surprised by screens or secondary defenders.

BlindZebra:

Excellent post. Should be required reading for all basketball officials.

MTD, Sr,

[Mark Padgett]

In determining how to make calls, I use the "WWESD" philosophy. It simplifies everything and I don't have to remember anything else.

Oh yeah. It stands for "What Would Earl Strom Do?"

BTW (off topic) - my son has a T-shirt that says "WWSD - What Would Scooby Do?" on it.

[Texas Aggie]

If the ball handler starts dribbling in the lane, pick up the defenders and what they are trying to do. This usually makes the call a lot easier.

Ruts stuff here is good and I agree 100%. Just to add to it a bit under this statement, be aware of a possible secondary defender coming over and either taking the charge or committing the foul himself. In boys play, HS JV or Varsity and above, some of these guys come out of nowhere and I think calls are missed because we weren't aware of their presence until after we put everything together in our minds -- often when we are heading back the other way.

The way I like to do it is think about what defense their in: zone, man, combo. Then break it down some more. This helps keeps me alert in games where we are at risk of drifting.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

In determining how to make calls, I use the "WWESD" philosophy. It simplifies everything and I don't have to remember anything else.

Oh yeah. It stands for "What Would Earl Strom Do?"

BTW (off topic) - my son has a T-shirt that says "WWSD - What Would Scooby Do?" on it.

Didn't know Scooby was an official.