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Old Thu May 24, 2007, 05:28pm
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OK, guys. So far we've used up two threads that were supposed to be about NF rule changes we'd like to see and we have a grand total of two suggestions - changing the terminology for intentional fouls and going to halves instead of quarters. Oh yeah - someone mentioned the changing the double bonus penalty, too. However, most of thread number two was taken up by a discussion of school funding. What's next - turning a discussion about dunking at half-time into one about the Iraq war?

Rule change ideas, please. Thank you.
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Old Thu May 24, 2007, 08:28pm
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Time Outs

Suggestion: Coaches cannot call time outs during a live ball or while the clock is running. One of my toughest calls is watching a dribbler cross the division line, get trapped against the back court line and the sideline, look for fouls, travel, out of bounds, etc., hear "Time out" from the bench area, and check to see if it's the head coach of the team that is allowed to call timeout in that situation. It's giving me a headache just typing up the situation.
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Old Thu May 24, 2007, 08:32pm
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Suggestion: Coaches cannot call time outs during a live ball or while the clock is running.
It should request a timeout. Only officials can call a timeout.

I want to save Mark the time.

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It should request a timeout. Only officials can call a timeout.

I want to save Mark the time.

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Thanks. I appreciate the help. Us Chicago guys have to stick together, besides - the meds have me really sleepy right now.

Here's an idea for a rule change. Once the ball has progressed into the front court and there is a subsequent throw-in for the offensive team, that team cannot inbound into the backcourt. What do you guys think?
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Old Thu May 24, 2007, 09:19pm
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It should request a timeout. Only officials can call a timeout.

I want to save Mark the time.

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I know some coaches deserve this label, but not all.

I would prefer only the players be allowed to request a TO during a live ball, but I believe that was voted down by the committee this year. Hopefully they will bring it up again next year.

Now, about that Iraq war...
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Here's an idea for a rule change. Once the ball has progressed into the front court and there is a subsequent throw-in for the offensive team, that team cannot inbound into the backcourt. What do you guys think?
I think that would add to violations and likely more conflict about the rule. Also HS players are not always as coordinated and you would have some violations that might just take place because of poor execution. I do not see a purpose for such a rule.

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Old Thu May 24, 2007, 09:29pm
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Thanks. I appreciate the help. Us Chicago guys have to stick together, besides - the meds have me really sleepy right now.

Here's an idea for a rule change. Once the ball has progressed into the front court and there is a subsequent throw-in for the offensive team, that team cannot inbound into the backcourt. What do you guys think?
I think I understand your thinking on that one, but I think it would entail too many tweaks to the rules. Would OOB now be considered part of the front court? Or would we need to add exceptions to the back court rule? What if, while team A has the ball in their frontcourt, the ball is deflected by the defense and goes OOB along a backcourt sideline - would the throw-in only be allowed back into the front court?

Besides, I'm too old - I dislike change.

Now, getting back to that troop funding bill...
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I think I understand your thinking on that one, but I think it would entail too many tweaks to the rules. Would OOB now be considered part of the front court? Or would we need to add exceptions to the back court rule? What if, while team A has the ball in their frontcourt, the ball is deflected by the defense and goes OOB along a backcourt sideline - would the throw-in only be allowed back into the front court?

Besides, I'm too old - I dislike change.

Now, getting back to that troop funding bill...
My biggest question is why bother? Nothing is broken with it the way it is.
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So far the two suggestions in this thread reflect FIBA rules. Interesting.....
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Old Fri May 25, 2007, 07:36am
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It should request a timeout. Only officials can call a timeout.

I want to save Mark the time.

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Only officials may grant a timeout.

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Old Fri May 25, 2007, 09:06am
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My biggest question is why bother? Nothing is broken with it the way it is.
Are you saying the troop funding bill isn't broken?
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Here's my suggestion. Make everything but a pony tail holder, a uniform, shoes, socks and any protective devices (knee braces, etc) illegal. Quit even dinking around with all the sweatbands and headbands. I'm tired of being the fashion police.
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Old Fri May 25, 2007, 10:22am
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Here's my suggestion. Make everything but a pony tail holder, a uniform, shoes, socks and any protective devices (knee braces, etc) illegal. Quit even dinking around with all the sweatbands and headbands. I'm tired of being the fashion police.
Um, what color pony tail holder?
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Old Fri May 25, 2007, 11:16am
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OK, guys - how about this one? If a team has possession in its backcourt and there is a subsequent throwin by that team, also in its backcourt, they get only the unused time left from their original 10 seconds to advance to frontcourt, not a restart on the 10 second clock. This would seem to reward the defense properly for not easily letting the team advance the ball on their original possession.
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Old Fri May 25, 2007, 11:24am
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they get only the unused time left from their original 10 seconds to advance to frontcourt, not a restart on the 10 second clock.
The defensive reward is the opponent calling a time out. Unless you have TV timeouts involved, 5 per game can be a reletive low number. This is dependent on the teams involved.

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