First AAU of the year

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

Then (sorry to threadjack) the fault is with the tournament rules, which should count a win in OT as a win by 1/2 a point (or even 0 points). Overtime is just a means of breaking a tie, it's an administrative quirk that its score is added on.

But do any leagues do it that way? Say an NFL RB needs another 20 yards to break the single season record for rushing. If his team allows the other team to score on the last play of the game, to instantiate the overtime, do the rushing yards he earns in OT not count towards his career rushing yards?

Would Nash's OT assists not "count"? Why would you not award the points earned as well?

Are you saying that each league has an administrative quirk or am I missing something?

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

But do any leagues do it that way? Say an NFL RB needs another 20 yards to break the single season record for rushing. If his team allows the other team to score on the last play of the game, to instantiate the overtime, do the rushing yards he earns in OT not count towards his career rushing yards?

Would Nash's OT assists not "count"? Why would you not award the points earned as well?

Are you saying that each league has an administrative quirk or am I missing something?

They all get this wrong when it comes to scores. It messes up gambling more than anything else. A win in OT or extra innings/frames is clearly closer than a 1 point (or 1 run) win in regulation, because it was tied at the end of regulation play, so it should count as a win by half a point. Something's wrong when a team has a chance to advance in a tournament or beat a point spread only by losing a small lead.

As to individual stats, it's different because players already play in different numbers of games, for different lengths of time, etc. Might as well count stats from extra play like any others.

Soccer gets it approximately right by not adding tie-breaking penalty kick goals to the score of a game. I think they either report the score at the end of regulation and add that the winner was decided by penalty kicks (maybe listing the penalty kick totals separately), or they add 1 goal.

Football using the current Fed-NCAA-CFL method of breaking ties gives no feel for what a game is like when a low scoring tie becomes an astronomic score after a few frames of tiebreaking, when the scores as they come are just tacked on to the regulation game score. Actually when it comes to individual scoring stats in that case, maybe they shouldn't count tiebreakers.

Robert

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

They all get this wrong when it comes to scores. It messes up gambling more than anything else.

Who cares?

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

Soccer gets it approximately right by not adding tie-breaking penalty kick goals to the score of a game. I think they either report the score at the end of regulation and add that the winner was decided by penalty kicks (maybe listing the penalty kick totals separately), or they add 1 goal.

Yes, but if you win in OT (golden goal or full-time), the goal(s) scored during the OT are reported as part of the score. Regulation time to penalty kicks is apples to potatoes.