We don't need no stinkin' new rules - or do we?

[lukealex]

What about changing a T to POI like NCAA? I can see the pros and cons of both sides, but it seems like the FED is taking the rules of NCAA slowly but surely.

[chartrusepengui]

exactly my point - what's really the point of changing? What is accomplished? I contend - absolutely nothing is accomplished exept that not all "intentional" fouls are flagrant and should not be labeled that way ..... but flagrant fouls can be intentional.

[JRutledge]

I would also like to get rid of the terminology of what we call an "intentional foul." I think another word could be used but I would not necessarily want to use the NBA terminology. I think the terminology causes a lot of problems because coaches use the "he was going for the ball" line. We do not call intentional fouls based on if it was intentional or not.

Peace

[Adam]

Maybe we could call them "Intensive fouls?"

[Scrapper1]

"Excessive foul"? Instead of saying it's an intentional foul for excessive contact, just call it what it is. A foul for excessive contact. 2 shots and the ball. Excessive foul. Sounds weird, I know.

[socalreff]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

"Excessive foul"? Instead of saying it's an intentional foul for excessive contact, just call it what it is. A foul for excessive contact. 2 shots and the ball. Excessive foul. Sounds weird, I know.

How about excessive contact foul.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by socalreff

How about excessive contact foul.

Actually, I like that very much. It really describes what happened.

BTW - how about a "Flagrant Unintentional" foul? The hand signal would be to form the letters "FU".

[crazy voyager]

or go like fiba and call them unsportsmanlike fouls

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Actually, I like that very much. It really describes what happened.

BTW - how about a "Flagrant Unintentional" foul? The hand signal would be to form the letters "FU".

Paging Nurse Ratched.

One of the patients has escaped again.

Please bring backup with extra medication.

(Mark, I wouldn't mess with her if I were you...)

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by crazy voyager

or go like fiba and call them unsportsmanlike fouls

Not to burst your bubble but unsportsmanlike fouls in NF and NCAA rules (usually American rules across the board) are considered non-contact fouls. It would be "inconsistent with the rules" (I figured someone would like this) to call something a foul based on contact when all other "unsportsmanlike fouls" do not involve any contact. Using that terminology would be inconsistent with what the NF does in multiple sports (and all the committee chairs do discuss similar rules and terminology on some level) to call a foul with contact unsportsmanlike.

Peace

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Paging Nurse Ratched.

One of the patients has escaped again.

Please bring backup with extra medication.

(Mark, I wouldn't mess with her if I were you...)

HEY - don't try to come between me and my lovergirl, Mildred. I always appreciate the opportunity to "mess" with her. The meds just heighten the experience.

Oh yeah, don't tell my wife.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

The meds just heighten the experience.

Arghh! TMI! TMI!

Not those meds!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Arghh! TMI! TMI!

Not those meds!

I need some meds to forget this entire thread.

Peace

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I need some meds to forget this entire thread.

Peace

Meet you at Hooters, and I'll give you some.

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

What I was trying to address were the situations in which we call an "intentional" when it really is a flagrant when it doesn't necessarily rise to the level of including ejection.

Maybe we could get an official signal for a "hard foul." Penalized the same as an intentional is now, but saving us the grief of having to explain to the coach/player why they're being called for an intentional foul when there was no intent or premeditation.