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Old Wed May 09, 2007, 07:44am
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Situation - help please

Team B is in the bonus. A1 is driving towards his basket when B1 establishes LGP in A1's path. A1 jumps in the air to attempt a shot but before contacting B1, passes the ball off. While the ball is in the air between A1 and A2, A1 contacts B1 and sends them both to the floor.

IF you have a foul here, what is your call?

a) PC foul on A1, no FTs
b) Team control foul, no FTs
c) common foul, B1 to shoot FT(s)
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Old Wed May 09, 2007, 07:48am
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B. Team control during the pass. Foul is against the passer, so it's a TC foul.
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Old Wed May 09, 2007, 07:50am
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Team B is in the bonus. A1 is driving towards his basket when B1 establishes LGP in A1's path. A1 jumps in the air to attempt a shot but before contacting B1, passes the ball off. While the ball is in the air between A1 and A2, A1 contacts B1 and sends them both to the floor.

IF you have a foul here, what is your call?

a) PC foul on A1, no FTs
b) Team control foul, no FTs
c) common foul, B1 to shoot FT(s)
Case 4.19.7 Sit D(a)
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Old Wed May 09, 2007, 07:51am
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Let's go with 4-12-1 and 4-12-2. Once A1 lets go of the ball for a pass, he no longer has control, but his team still does.

B is the correct option, and this play is a good topic for pre-game discussion - both about who is going to look where and how the foul should be assessed.
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Old Wed May 09, 2007, 08:01am
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Ya, that's what I thought too (B) but the practice test I took last night said differently. It said it should be (c), common foul and B1 shoots FTs at the other end.
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Old Wed May 09, 2007, 08:13am
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Was it a Fed practice test?
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Old Wed May 09, 2007, 08:22am
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Was it a Fed practice test?
It was an association tasted based on Fed rules. They must have just kicked that question.
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Old Wed May 09, 2007, 08:25am
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Team B is in the bonus. A1 is driving towards his basket when B1 establishes LGP in A1's path. A1 jumps in the air to attempt a shot but before contacting B1, passes the ball off. While the ball is in the air between A1 and A2, A1 contacts B1 and sends them both to the floor.

IF you have a foul here, what is your call?

a) PC foul on A1, no FTs
b) Team control foul, no FTs
c) common foul, B1 to shoot FT(s)

I agree that the correct answer is (b), but do not forget that both Team Control Fouls and Player Control Fouls are a Common Fouls.

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Old Wed May 09, 2007, 08:31am
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I agree that the correct answer is (b), but do not forget that both Team Control Fouls and Player Control Fouls are a Common Fouls.

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...But [maybe] with shots.
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Old Wed May 09, 2007, 08:48am
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...But [maybe] with shots.
When would you get shots for a team control foul or player control foul?
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Old Wed May 09, 2007, 09:43am
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When would you get shots for a team control foul or player control foul?
I dunno.
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Old Wed May 09, 2007, 09:57am
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When would you get shots for a team control foul or player control foul?
You never get shots on a player control foul.
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Old Wed May 09, 2007, 10:16am
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So do you ever get shots on a team control foul?
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Old Wed May 09, 2007, 10:24am
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So do you ever get shots on a team control foul?
I was checking to make sure and the answer is no. You dont shoot free throw on a team control foul. Look in your case book under 4.19.7. It gives examples of team control fouls.
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Old Wed May 09, 2007, 10:29am
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You never get shots on a player control foul.
I know, that's why I was confused about Mick's response that said "(maybe) with shots". I still don't quite see what he was saying.

But you never shoot free throws for any team control or player control foul.
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