NFHS New Rules are posted

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by socalreff

Thanks. Do you see situations during games where you wish there was one?

Nope. Personally if I saw a game where a team used the "stall," I would not be upset. The team is just making it easy for me.

Peace

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Nope. Personally if I saw a game where a team used the "stall," I would not be upset. The team is just making it easy for me.

Agree. What we personally like or dislike isn't germane or relevant to the way that we call the game. If what a team is doing is legal, there's no reason to get involved. And you sureasheck can't make any valid argument in favor of getting involved in something that is legal and none of your business either(like a coach hollering at one of his players ).

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Agree. What we personally like or dislike isn't germane or relevant to the way that we call the game. If what a team is doing is legal, there's no reason to get involved. And you sureasheck can't make any valid argument in favor of getting involved in something that is legal and none of your business either(like a coach hollering at one of his players ).

I don't think the question was asking whether we would "inset" ourselves and call differently if a team was stalling...just asking for personal experiences/preferences about using a shot clock or not.

[Junker]

Who cares if a team goes to a stall? We don't get paid by the hour so I don't mind the clock running and me not having to run. Seriously though, in my area I don't see too many teams that really sit on the ball. I like not having a shot clock and allowing some teams to "take the air out of the ball" and make other teams play their tempo. It's nice to see some different styles of play.

[refnrev]

Originally Posted by Junker

Who cares if a team goes to a stall? We don't get paid by the hour so I don't mind the clock running and me not having to run. Seriously though, in my area I don't see too many teams that really sit on the ball. I like not having a shot clock and allowing some teams to "take the air out of the ball" and make other teams play their tempo. It's nice to see some different styles of play.

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AGREED! One of the most interesting thing I have ever seen was a HS girls V game between a run and gun team and a slow down team. Team 2 inbounded at the start of the second quarter, the girl dribbled to the arch and held the ball on her hip for 7:40, then they scored on a little back door alley oop play. 2 points the entire quarter. It also got into the first team's head and they never regrouped. Totally took them out of their game. A much less talented team walked away with a win because of "unique" strategy and the inability of a HC to make the proper adjustments to it.

As for the outstretched arms for not closely guarded... it's about time. It's a good signal that lets people know that you see it and are not just daydreaming.

[BillyMac]

From refnrev: "One of the most interesting thing I have ever seen was a HS girls V game between a run and gun team and a slow down team."

Many years ago, after officiating a junior varsity boys game between South Catholic (Hartford, CT) and Bristol (CT) Central, I stayed to watch the varsity game that followed, and decided to sit right behind the South Catholic bench, because I wanted to watch Coach Joe Reilly, who at the time was considered one of the best coaches in Connecticut.

Coach Reilly knew that he had an uphill battle. Bristol Central was ranked number one in the state and had a kid named Huckaby, who would later go on to star for Boston College, as well as a few other Division I prospects. Coach Reilly decided to run a stall offense. I couldn't believe how well coached and how patient his players, led by his point guard son, were. They were instructed to only take uncontested layups for the entire game. South Catholic lost that game 17 to 14, but could have won the game if they hadn't missed a wide open layup and a few foul shots. It was one of the most interesting, and exciting, games that I've ever observed. I believe that this was when the NFHS had the "lack of action" rule so South Catholic couldn't just hold the ball.

I know a lot of officials would disagree with me, probably the majority, especially those who officiate college ball, as well as high school ball, but I don't think that we need a shot clock in high school basketball. Just my, probably minority, opinion, for what it's worth.

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I know a lot of officials would disagree with me, probably the majority, especially those who officiate college ball, as well as high school ball, but I don't think that we need a shot clock in high school basketball. Just my, probably minority, opinion, for what it's worth.

I agree 100%, for a number of reasons, but mostly because it adds a dimension of pressure to the offense that discourages the fundamentals of the game. If you look at the origins of the rule, it was to drive up scoring and encourage uptempo offenses, neither of which really have a basis in the origin of the game.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

I don't think the question was asking whether we would "inset" ourselves and call differently if a team was stalling...just asking for personal experiences/preferences about using a shot clock or not.

Shut up.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Shut up.

Why?