Putting hands on official? (Video added)

[paulsonj72]

Is it an automatic dq if a player puts hsi(or her) hands on an official. Late in the 1st half of the Illinois 2A boys title game a player did so and was subsequently dq'ed. However that was his 2nd T as he had just received a T for the same play so he could have been dq'ed for that. If not for the 1st T is that an automatic DQ(or ejection as called on the TV broadcast)

[Adam]

Not necessarily automatic, but very likely.

[paulsonj72]

Originally Posted by Adam

Not necessarily automatic, but very likely.

As stated kid was dq'ed(or ejected) because putting his hands on the official was his 2nd T and thus that was automatic.

[JRutledge]

It is pretty automatic. I saw the play too and it was a good call. I can see this play being used as an example in future videos in our state.

Peace

[paulsonj72]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

It is pretty automatic. I saw the play too and it was a good call. I can see this play being used as an example in future videos in our state.

Peace

I actually didn't see the play live. I was watching another game online but heard the audio and all the hub hub so I changed screens and saw the whole thing on replay. I asked because I was curious as I have never seen that at the high school level and also since he was gone anyway due to the 2nd T.

[rekent]

APG, Jet - anyone able to post this one for those of us who didn't see it?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by paulsonj72

I actually didn't see the play live. I was watching another game online but heard the audio and all the hub hub so I changed screens and saw the whole thing on replay. I asked because I was curious as I have never seen that at the high school level and also since he was gone anyway due to the 2nd T.

I saw the play.

If I can get copy of the play, I will post it. But I certainly feel it was warranted and would have been warranted if it was the first T.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by paulsonj72

As stated kid was dq'ed(or ejected) because putting his hands on the official was his 2nd T and thus that was automatic.

I'm just saying it may not be automatic flagrant, but it's close. I haven't seen the play, so I dont know what you mean by "putting hands on the official."

[paulsonj72]

Originally Posted by Adam

I'm just saying it may not be automatic flagrant, but it's close. I haven't seen the play, so I dont know what you mean by "putting hands on the official."

He gave the official a shove(not a big one but still a shove) while proteszting his 1st T. He was then given the 2nd T for the shove and was DQ'ed(ejected) for 2 T's

[APG]

South Holland (Seton Academy) vs Harrisburg?

If that's the game, I might be able to get a clip of the play later.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by paulsonj72

He gave the official a shove(not a big one but still a shove)

He's done in my game.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by paulsonj72

He gave the official a shove(not a big one but still a shove) while proteszting his 1st T. He was then given the 2nd T for the shove and was DQ'ed(ejected) for 2 T's

So...watching the whole scene develop I don't believe White #4 shoved the official to protest the first T. I believe White #4 made contact with the official because he was trying to show him what Blue #11 did after the foul was called. Not the wisest move for sure but that's my view.

Take a look at Blue #11 on the sideline view right after he's called for the foul. He gives White #4 a little shove in the back. That's what led to White #4's first T for saying something to Blue #11. When the T is called White #4 looks to the official and tries to show him what Blue #11 did...again, not the best move on his part.

When I first watched the play the thing that jumped out at me was there wasn't really any anger on White #4's face as he approached/made contact with the official. I know, we're not psychologists out there but that didn't make sense to me if he was truly angry about the call.

[paulsonj72]

Statement from the IHSA on tonights 2A title game

IHSA Statement on Class 2A Boys Basketball State Championship Game > IHSA

Originally Posted by paulsonj72

Statement from the IHSA on tonights 2A title game

IHSA Statement on Class 2A Boys Basketball State Championship Game > IHSA

That statement makes me wonder if there were more unsporting acts than just the one in the video. Does anyone know what else happened?

[paulsonj72]

Originally Posted by seanwestref

That statement makes me wonder if there were more unsporting acts than just the one in the video. Does anyone know what else happened?

Yes. After the game and during the award ceremony Seton Academy walked off before getting the 2nd place trophy and did not come back to receive the trophy. Aslo the Seton coach supposedly took off his silver medal and tossed it to an assistant coach.(not sure why there. There could be a legit reason there) They also apparently left the arena almost right after the awards ceremony and he also supposedly had some words with some fans behind the bench right after the final buzzer. HArrisburg had a few fans rush the floor when there was still some time left on the clock.(not many and it was like .8 seconds) but the IHSa takes a dim view of this and the game itself was very chippy and physical with words going back and forth. There was a technical earlier in the game on a Harrisburg player before the incident with the Seton player.