In case you haven't hear...Joey Crawford

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Whatever.

Thanks for avoiding my questions, reveals a lot about you that has nothing to do with your age, but everything to do with who you are.

Or what......

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by Coach Jinx

... Older guy telling me it was DPI & I told in no way in hell it was. During the film review observer gave me a THAT A BOY on a GREAT NO CALL!!!(SEE I REALLY AM AN OFFICIAL)

Jinxie Boy...this post is what really gives you away. Any legit official is here to learn...to get feedback from eachother...to push themselves with rules knowledge. Your posts just try to prop yourself up, prove that you're better than "old guys" and tear down real officials. You may have a varsity schedule (a scary thought), but that is a bigger travesty than the Crawford/Duncan situation...then that makes you a fanboy with a whistle, which would be a disservice to players and officials alike.

[Coach Jinx]

I post on here to give crap to officials who always want to talk about how bad fans are, teams are & coaches are. I am not only a high school official, & A VERY, VERY, VERY GOOD ONE but I also a guy who does a lot of things in my association to help mentor younger guys & help train & retain guys. I pop off on here because I don't like a lot of older officials or guys who always want to put other people down. If a guy makes a mistake he should be accountable. What joey did was not a mistake it was bad wreckless judgement [In my opinion only].

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Coach Jinx

I post on here to give crap to officials who always want to talk about how bad fans are, teams are & coaches are. I am not only a high school official, & A VERY, VERY, VERY GOOD ONE but I also a guy who does a lot of things in my association to help mentor younger guys & help train & retain guys. I pop off on here because I don't like a lot of older officials or guys who always want to put other people down. If a guy makes a mistake he should be accountable. What joey did was not a mistake it was bad wreckless judgement.

If you are that good, not sure we can verify that here. Also if you are so good, I am sure giving out your real name and real identity would not be a problem. So that people here can identify how good you are.

Also everyone here is not "older." There are officials here that are relatively young (some would say I fit in that category).

Originally Posted by Coach Jinx

Yesterday you could see people chirping about fanboy this & that. THen he gets suspended for the rest of the year & everyone that was supporting him looks like a big, fat, hairy jackaxx.

Also the reality is that Duncan was fined around $30,000 for the incident. So it is clear that he was not blameless in this situation. I tend to hold back judgment on this because I was not there and I did not see the entire situation. It is very difficult to know what happen even based on what the NBA says. I am sure at some point Crawford will talk publicly about this situation and we will here his side of the story. Just because the NBA feels that he was wrong does not mean that is a reality. I have been in situations of he said, he said while officiating and often times the stories are very cloudy when positions are expressed. Also this incident alone was not what got Crawford suspended. There was a prior incident base on what the David Stern said on the Dan Patrick show.

Also it is very unprofessional if you are an official to go on and on in this way about a fellow official. For one you do not know the circumstances other than what you heard on the media and you just happen to be someone about the fact that Crawford might be in trouble. It must be pointed out that this is a common claim of fan boys when they come here and almost nothing ever happens to the officials in question. But then again if you are so good you should know this already.

Peace

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Whatever.

Thanks for avoiding my questions, reveals a lot about you that has nothing to do with your age, but everything to do with who you are.

Your repetitive why, why, why questions were childish and not worthy of a response.

Go play your two year-old games with someone else.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by zebraman

Someday you will be too. And if you "still have game" and you still love to ref, you might be singing a different tune.

There are several "older refs" in our HS association as well as the junior college games that I ref who are fantastic officials. They need to stay, not go! Experience is a huge asset.

Joey Crawford's 29 years are a credit to him. He made a mistake but to say that his experience is part of the problem is..... ignorant at best.

When I reach 50, I'm giving it up. I'm not going to be one of those old-timers that I see out there just holding on.

I would like to see the NCAA and the NBA follow the lead of FIFA and put in an age cap. FIFA's is 45. Doesn't matter who you are, after that age is attained, you must hang 'em up.

[zebraman]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

When I reach 50, I'm giving it up. I'm not going to be one of those old-timers that I see out there just holding on.

I would like to see the NCAA and the NBA follow the lead of FIFA and put in an age cap. FIFA's is 45. Doesn't matter who you are, after that age is attained, you must hang 'em up.

Just because you want to give it up at 50 doesn't mean others should have to. I ref with some guys in their 50's that keep themselves in fabulous shape and can run circles around the younger guys. They are far from "just holding on." They are excelling in all aspects of the game.

I saw some fantastic NCAA officials over the age of 50 this season. I saw some young, new faces that were obviously struggling. I also see some "younger officials" who do not stay in shape year-round and they struggle with injuries frequently.

There is no substitute for experience.

Age shouldn't be the issue. It should be all about performance.

[canuckrefguy]

Originally Posted by zebraman

Just because you want to give it up at 50 doesn't mean others should have to. I ref with some guys in their 50's that keep themselves in fabulous shape and can run circles around the younger guys. They are far from "just holding on." They are excelling in all aspects of the game.

I saw some fantastic NCAA officials over the age of 50 this season. I saw some young, new faces that were obviously struggling. I also see some "younger officials" who do not stay in shape year-round and they struggle with injuries frequently.

There is no substitute for experience.

Age shouldn't be the issue. It should be all about performance.

I'd like to see some evidence that Crawford and Bavetta "underperform" enough that they should "go" as you stated. Both were in the NBA finals last year, no?

If Crawford had chucked Beno Udrih instead of Tim Duncan, nobody would have cared.

Did he get into it too much with Duncan - maybe, probably, I'm not sure. But it sure looks like Stern was looking for a reason to pull the plug on him.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Your repetitive why, why, why questions were childish and not worthy of a response.

Go play your two year-old games with someone else.

You should see a doctor about that bug up your @ss my friend.

You made some mighty controversial statements and the best you can do when asked to explain is call me a 2 year old? Nice work...intellectually dishonest and lazy, all in the same thread.

Anyway, don't bother now...time to update my ignore list. Move over old school, you've got company and he earned it.

[zebraman]

Originally Posted by canuckrefguy

I'd like to see some evidence that Crawford and Bavetta "underperform" enough that they should "go" as you stated. Both were in the NBA finals last year, no?

If Crawford had chucked Beno Udrih instead of Tim Duncan, nobody would have cared.

Did he get into it too much with Duncan - maybe, probably, I'm not sure. But it sure looks like Stern was looking for a reason to pull the plug on him.

canuckrefguy,

I assume you meant to reply to Nevadaref instead of me because it was him that said they should "go."

[canuckrefguy]

Originally Posted by zebraman

canuckrefguy,

I assume you meant to reply to Nevadaref instead of me because it was him that said they should "go."

AAAAGH

Right you are!

Sorry, Zebra....

So, Nevada - what of it?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

When I reach 50, I'm giving it up. I'm not going to be one of those old-timers that I see out there just holding on.

I would like to see the NCAA and the NBA follow the lead of FIFA and put in an age cap. FIFA's is 45. Doesn't matter who you are, after that age is attained, you must hang 'em up.

That is totally absurd for you to say such a silly thing about an arbitrary age. Some of the best officials in this country are over 50. Just because there are some in the officiating community that cannot get around at that age does not mean that applies to everyone. I know a man that is in his 70s and he is in better shape than most officials.

Also who cares what FIBA does?

Peace

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Coach Jinx

I post on here to give crap to officials who always want to talk about how bad fans are, teams are & coaches are. I am not only a high school official, & A VERY, VERY, VERY GOOD ONE(stamping his feet and sticking out his lower lip)...

Yesterday you could see people chirping about fanboy this & that. THen he gets suspended for the rest of the year & everyone that was supporting him looks like a big, fat, hairy jackaxx.

Big, fat hairy jackaxx? Yup, methinks we got ourselves a 14 year-old fanboy trying to pose as a real official.....and not a very mature 14 year-old either.

Did you forget that you were also claiming to be a great college football official too, as well as being a VERY, VERY VERY GOOD high school basketball official? Not to mention being a former D1 basketball star too? And I think that you also mentioned that you're a high school baseball varsity coach in your spare time, when you're not solving World Hunger.

I'm sure that your Mommy likes you too......

Well, at least this particular fanboy is good for a few laughs.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

You know what's really a shame about the whole Rutgers thing. The governor of New Jersey was badly injured rushing to the press conference in an automobile accident. He was the second one in the last few years to do so, as they had one that kept getting rear ended all the time.

Why do I feel like washing my hands after reading one of your posts?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Anyway, don't bother now...time to update my ignore list.

You'll have to update your "stupid monkey" list at the same time.

Just saying.......