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Good no bang! That statement could be taking in a good or bad way. If you bang he can reverse his statement on you saying i didnt mean it that way. I meant you were being fair. Dont assume! If you bang you have interrupted the game and your great game has been dismantled. Think preventive officiating.
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1. Any coach who makes this comment and then claims it was meant as a compliment is a liar of Imus proportions. Which is why I make them repeat it in an clear, uncertain manner so they cannot deny it later. 2. Game interruption and preventative officiating is camp-speak for don't cause trouble. If your life strategy is to not cause trouble then get out of officiating.
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I guess that my idea of "common sense officiating" is completely different than yours. Common sense officiating to me means that you simply take care of bidness when you have to, without making up phony excuses why you shouldn't penalize unsporting conduct. Common sense officiating also means to me that you clean up the unsporting crap so that the next set of officials might not have to deal with it either. We'll just have to disagree on the meaning of "common sense", I guess. Last edited by Jurassic Referee; Tue Apr 10, 2007 at 07:50pm. |
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I understand what you are saying, but in this case the coach didnt call you a vulgar name. If he does then by all means stick him or even run him depending on the vulgarity. That happened to me in a college game this past season. Coach said F YOU I stick him. 2 mins left he made a 15 pt comeback and lost. we had interrupted dribble and he was yelling for time out. I dont grant steal and layup. Grant the time out he comes up to the table yelling at me I wanted time, I said let me tell you why I cant grant it, he was like dont talk to me and walking back he says F YOU. I wack him. No brainer. In the scenario we are talking about would you really stick a coach for that comment?
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That said, the OP is not a HS or college official he's a new guy, so camp-speak like game interrupters is lost on him at best. At worst it's going to confuse him and make him think it's OK to take all sorts of sh1t from coaches in the name of your holy game management. Sometimes game management means having the balls to take care of business.
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I don't believe in ignoring unsporting behavior just because there's only a few seconds left in a game. I don't believe in ignoring it at any time. And I also agree with Dan_ref that your "game interrupter" and "preventive officiating" comments are basically nothing but excuses not to call a technical foul. If you're not preventing somebody from committing an unsporting act, I can't see how anyone could ever call that "preventive officiating". |
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I should clarify. I am new to basketball officiating but I have Umpired baseball for 11 years. I asked my partner what he would have done after the game was over. He said, given the situation, I probably made the right decision. The coach was OK for the whole game until that one moment. My only problem with not asking him to clarify was, Does he really think I am home cooking him? or is it just a heat of the moment comment. Either way his team lost and he didn't have a TECH (or me) at the end of the game to blame for the loss. I guess it's one of those things to remember and hope if it ever happens again I will use good judgment and not fly off of the handle. But it sure is funny how certain calls we make (or don't) seem to stick with us.
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He gave himself the rope and tied the knot. By asking the follow-up, you're letting him bring himself down from the gallows. If not - ring him up.
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I would like to appologize to the room. I did not know OP was a new official. I very sorry for any confusion. I'm sorry if I pissed any of you off as well. I'm just saying what I would do in the situation. OP is technically correct, that he should've given a Technical Foul. I'm sorry for any confusion OP, Sorry for getting any of you upset as well.
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Btw though, it might not be a bad idea to forget about constantly mentioning the fact that you do some college ball. There's a whole bunch of officials here that have worked higher levels of college than you and for a much longer time also. In some areas, it's a lot easier to break into JUCO and D3 games than it is is to get a good high school varsity schedule. The fact that some people do college games at whatever level doesn't really give their answers any more credibility than the rawest rookie posting here. We're all wrong occasionally, no matter what, and we're all here to learn. That's my opinion anyway fwiw. ![]() |
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