When "talking heads" are harshly criticized on the forum, you think:

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by tomegun

I do not think of Welmer as an official who favors one team or another. I also don't think of Welmer as a horrible official - but I sure don't see him as an elite official either.

You wanted to know what everyone thought was appropriate when it came to bashing officials. Well, I gave you my opinion of what I thought was appropriate. Your constant Welmer-bashing isn't appropriate in my opinion. It basically isn't any different than the fanboys that come here solely to dump on officials, also in my opinion.

You're certainly entitled to your opinions also.

That's not the answer that you were looking for, was it?

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

You wanted to know what everyone thought was appropriate when it came to bashing officials. Well, I gave you my opinion of what I thought was appropriate. Your constant Welmer-bashing isn't appropriate in my opinion. It basically isn't any different than the fanboys that come here solely to dump on officials, also in my opinion.

You're certainly entitled to your opinions also.

That's not the answer that you were looking for, was it?

You are wrong again! I did not bring up the term bashing so I didn't ask what was appropriate when it came to bashing officials. If you think what I say about Welmer is bashing, that is your opinion and you are entitled to it. I gave my opinion of Welmer; if you consider it bashing then that is your opinion. What you consider bashing is basically me speaking up and giving my opinion when someone speaks of him as if his performance is on par with a Burr, Valentine, Higgins, Libbey and on and on. It is so convenient for you to skip over things like when I said I've heard he is a good guy, but hang on to the negative. I know officials other officials that are jerks and I wouldn't mention their names. If I actually thought of Welmer as badly as you think I do I wouldn't even mention his name.
What I get from you is the opinion that if Burr calls it then it is right or if "Joe D1" calls it then it is the right call. You seem to condemn others if they say "Joe D1" screwed the pooch repeatedly whether it is true or not. My question was asked because of this type of opinion. I did not bring Welmer into this conversation because I wasn't thinking about him when I asked the original question. You are the one hanging on to this, not me. I said he (Welmer) is supposed to be a good guy, I said he makes the super obvious calls (primarily) and I said he - IMO - isn't among the elite. The results seem to be in line with what I'm saying. Maybe you should start to drink some of my Kool Aid!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by tomegun

1) You are wrong again!

2) I did not bring up the term bashing so I didn't ask what was appropriate when it came to bashing officials.

3) What I get from you is the opinion that if Burr calls it then it is right or if "Joe D1" calls it then it is the right call.

1) How can I be wrong? I gave you my opinion. How can my opinion be wrong? Is it wrong because you say it's wrong?

2) See post of your's cited above. You didn't ask what was appropriate when it came to bashing officials? Someone must be posting under your name again. If you don't like the answers, don't ask the questions.

3) I don't have a clue where you get that from. I said many times that ANY official is going to blow a call sometimes. It's not about blowing individual calls. What bothers me is the fanboys and supposed officials that question another official's integrity or courage. I don't think that is appropriate when it comes to bashing officials. Iow, I just answered the question that you asked above. Again, if you don't happen to like that answer, too bad.