Hope so. The sooner that choking mope whines his butt off into retirement(or Seattle), the quicker we'll see the promising kids like Hughes get a shot.

Not that he's not my favorite pitcher or anything.......

Yup, just gotta pray that the kid doesn't hurt himself before the Yankees sign him in free agency in....oh about....four years from now. :D

Seriously, with that much talent and promise, you really do hope that the kid stays healthy <b>and</b> his head stays on straight. Right now, he looks special.

LOL...I was waiting for them to go after Randy Johnson and David Wells this summer - but they got Jeff Weaver instead.

Nope.


<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=yspsctnhdln>Red Sox, Mariners postponed by inclement weather
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<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>April 12, 2007

BOSTON (AP) -- Thursday's game between the Seattle Mariners and the Boston Red Sox was postponed after a wet afternoon and a forecast of rain, sleet and snow.
The game was rescheduled for May 3 at 7:05 p.m. Seattle's May 2 night home game against the Chicago White Sox will be moved to a day game.
Thursday's scheduled starters have been pushed back a day, with Boston's Tim Wakefield (0-1) facing the Los Angeles Angels' John Lackey (2-0), and Seattle's Jarrod Washburn (0-0) facing the Texas Rangers and Kevin Millwood (1-1) on Friday.
The postponement moved Daisuke Matsuzaka's next scheduled start back a day to Tuesday in Toronto. Friday's scheduled starter, Julian Tavarez (0-1), will pitch Boston's Patriots Day game against the Angels on Monday against Joe Saunders (1-0).

Sox will need him in Toronto. They're tough.

One of these things are not like the other...oh wait... :D

Discomfort forces Cubs' Prior to exit extended spring start early
http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/10123559

Hey Tanner, how's that Cardinal ace doing?

So, :p

Under a little pain, BUT I think it's due to that heavy ring he's wearing. ;)

Ha! <font><IIIII>

Jackie Robinson Day
 

60 years ago today. Thank you, Jackie.

http://www.photofile.com/Photos/Albu..._Supercard.jpg

http://www.dugout-memories.com/goffebb6.jpg

I heard part of a fascinating interview with his widow by Bob Costas on the radio on my way to work Saturday morning. She mentioned how disappointed she was with the movie done in 1950 staring Jackie ("Jack," as she referred to him) as himself; then she noted that there's going to be another one done soon, but couldn't divulge any of the key players because negotiations are still ongoing. She said the original portrayed him as too docile and conciliatory. I'm very much looking forward to seeing that one.

There was a great exchange during ESPN's Dodgers game last night. Jackie Robinson's widow, Rachel, was in the booth and was talking about his steal of home in the World Series. She said that she and Yogi Berra don't even say hi to each other any more. When they see each other, their usual greeting is: (Yogi) "He was out", (Rachel) "He was safe, Yogi". :)

Good one Chuck ! :)
Any idea in what year that game [play] was made ?

A quick check shows it was the first game of the '55 World Series between the Yankees and Dodgers.

I wasn't born yet; that's why I don't remember it. ;)

That is a very funny story. I am so sorry I missed that.

Peace

The most fascinating story I heard from her during the Costas radio show was about Jackie's court martial in the Army.

Apparently, the Army had only recently issued an directive stating that soldiers could not be segregated on Army buses. Robinson got on the bus and sat next to the wife (who according to Rachel, looked white) of one of the men in his unit, towards the front. The bus driver directed him to move to the back, and he refused. The driver proceeded to make a stink of it, and an officer on the bus ordered Jackie to comply. He still refused. The driver went to the next stop and had Jackie arrested by the MPs.
He was court martialed for insubordination and eventually exonerated and given an honorable discharge.

I wonder if he would have been accepted and even signed by the Dodgers had he been carrying a dishonorable discharge with him.

Geeze, Big Papi hits a hard shot past the Jays first baseman into right field.....and then gets thrown out by the second baseman. The ol' Ted Williams shift <i>redux</i>. And it worked perfectly.

:cool: <TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=section_medium><TD class=black12bold align=middle colSpan=8>Seattle</TD></TR><TR><TD class=black12bold width="30%">Name</TD><TD class=black12bold align=right width="10%">IP</TD><TD class=black12bold align=right width="10%">H</TD><TD class=black12bold align=right width="10%">R</TD><TD class=black12bold align=right width="10%">ER</TD><TD class=black12bold align=right width="10%">BB</TD><TD class=black12bold align=right width="10%">SO</TD><TD class=black12bold align=right width="10%">ERA</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc colSpan=8 height=1>http://images.usatoday.com/_common/_images/clear.gif</TD></TR><TR><TD class=black11>J Weaver (L, 0-2) </TD><TD class=black11 align=right>6</TD><TD class=black11 align=right>10</TD><TD class=black11 align=right>7</TD><TD class=black11 align=right>7</TD><TD class=black11 align=right>1</TD><TD class=black11 align=right>3</TD><TD class=black11 align=right>15.75</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc colSpan=8 height=1>http://images.usatoday.com/_common/_images/clear.gif</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Speaking of pitchers, in looking at the DL's of all the clubs, every club except 3 (White Sox, Brewers, and Giants) have at least one pitcher on the DL, most have 2 or 3, and some teams (...cough...Yankees...cough...) have as many as <B>six</B> pitchers on the DL. :eek:

Maybe run production will be going up this year?

He should have stayed put with Duncan.

I don't care what team you're a fan of, if you're a <i>beisbol</i> fan you gotta hope that the M's Felix Hernandez is OK. The kid is special; great to watch. He left his start last night with elbow problems.

<TABLE class=yspwhitebg cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=560 border=0><TBODY><TR class=yspsctbg><TD class=ysptblhdr colSpan=10 height=19>NO-hitter!!!!!!!!!

Chi White Sox

</TD></TR><TR class=ysptblthbody2 align=right><TD width="32%" height=18></TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">IP</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">H</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">R</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">ER</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">BB</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">K</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">HR</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="19%" colSpan=2>Season ERA </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD align=left>M. Buehrle (W, 1-0)</TD><TD>9.0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2.08</TD><TD width=8></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


He just missed a perfect game by issuing one walk. He promptly picked-off the only man to reach base, and thus faced the minimum of 27 batters.

And, as an interesting side note, the only person to reach base was Sammy Sosa, and he's the one that got picked off. Since the game was in Chicago, I wonder what kind of reaction Sammy received.

I had not heard that - that's too bad. You're right though, it is fun to watch great players perform. I hope he's ok the rest of the season (well, at least until the Mariners/Cubs World Series...:D)

It does make me wonder if there really is a correaltion to the obsession with pitch counts, and all the injuries. <font color = red><font size =-3>(WARNING - The following is an Old Person Alert)</font size></font color> Back in my day, there were many more complete games and more innings pitched, with seemingly fewer overall injuries. Now along comes Dice-K, with his pitching routine, also similarly injury-free. Is he just a freak of nature, or is it possible he represents what could happen if more pitchers followed the same routine? Are current pitchers actually being hurt by limiting their throwing, rather than the other way around?

Caption indicates Coco and Manny are celebrating Manny's HR.
Does Coco really want to be there?

http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos...19/redsoxx.jpg

Down 6-2 going into the bottom of the 9th.....

Had 'em right where we wanted 'em!:D

My impression was that while Dice-K throws more innings per outing (at least he did in Japan), he is used to more rest between starts.

All's well that ends well.:D Better than being down 4 runs in the top of the 9th.

If you could call it rest. It's true he went sometimes 7 days between starts, but it's the training in between starts that was impressive. I don't remember all the details, but I thought I heard he did much more than American pitchers, such as long toss at 200 - 300 feet, where US pitchers do 100 -200 feet, bullpen sessions of 100+ pitches, etc. These are all things that would get a MLB pitching coach fired these days. In fact, I believe Boston had to negotiate out some of these training items with his agent.

My point is he seems to survive/thrive under that type of training, and pitchers back before, say 1970, would laugh at a thing called a pitch count, so maybe we've gone too far in "protecting" today's pitchers? I'm just wondering if things have been dialed back so much that injuries are more likely to happen now, rather than less.

But, then again, I'm not a doctor, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

So, you think A-Rod can keep doing it all weekend?

He'll need to, since it looks like the Yanks have Moe, Larry, and Curly set up in the rotation...

Looks like he is ok...it's not the Tommy Johns elbow problem...he will miss his next two starts for sure, and then they will go from there. He is fun to watch! The good news is that with Felix out for a few, Weaver will get one more additional start!!! Yippee!! He had an ERA of 42.7 (or something like that) after his first start!

M&M,
I was wondering who those guys were. Not household names in my yard.

A couple few months ago the talking heads were anticipating an MVP year for A-Rod, and he's really doing well. How can they predict something like that?

He told them he was finally going to start playing???:rolleyes:

How prognosticative of you!

<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 border=0><TBODY><TR class=gamehead><TD colSpan=3>Scoring Summary</TD><TD>NYY</TD><TD>BOS</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD align=middle>http://espn.starwave.com/i/teamlogos.../trans/nyy.gif</TD><TD align=middle>3rd</TD><TD>J Damon grounded out to shortstop, R Cano scored, M Cabrera to third.</TD><TD align=middle>1</TD><TD align=middle>0</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD align=middle>http://espn.starwave.com/i/teamlogos.../trans/nyy.gif</TD><TD align=middle>4th</TD><TD>A Rodriguez homered to left.</TD><TD align=middle>2</TD><TD align=middle>0</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD align=middle>http://espn.starwave.com/i/teamlogos.../trans/bos.gif</TD><TD align=middle>4th</TD><TD>J Varitek homered to right center, M Lowell scored.</TD><TD align=middle>2</TD><TD align=middle>2</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD align=middle>http://espn.starwave.com/i/teamlogos.../trans/nyy.gif</TD><TD align=middle>5th</TD><TD>A Rodriguez homered to right center, D Jeter and B Abreu scored.</TD><TD align=middle>5</TD><TD align=middle>2</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD align=middle>http://espn.starwave.com/i/teamlogos.../trans/nyy.gif</TD><TD align=middle>8th</TD><TD>J Giambi singled to right, A Rodriguez scored.</TD><TD align=middle>6</TD><TD align=middle>2</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD align=middle>http://espn.starwave.com/i/teamlogos.../trans/bos.gif</TD><TD align=middle>8th</TD><TD>M Lowell singled to left, D Ortiz scored, M Ramirez to third.</TD><TD align=middle>6</TD><TD align=middle>3</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD align=middle>http://espn.starwave.com/i/teamlogos.../trans/bos.gif</TD><TD align=middle>8th</TD><TD>J Varitek singled to right, M Ramirez scored, M Lowell to second.</TD><TD align=middle>6</TD><TD align=middle>4</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD align=middle>http://espn.starwave.com/i/teamlogos.../trans/bos.gif</TD><TD align=middle>8th</TD><TD>C Crisp tripled to right, M Lowell and J Varitek scored.</TD><TD align=middle>6</TD><TD align=middle>6</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD align=middle>http://espn.starwave.com/i/teamlogos.../trans/bos.gif</TD><TD align=middle>8th</TD><TD>A Cora singled to center, C Crisp scored.</TD><TD align=middle>6</TD><TD align=middle>7</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


What goes around comes around. :p

The only question I have is this......























Whose country?

I think it's OUR country, Gap, but I'll have to wait for FOX to run the commercial 28 times this afternoon before I can be sure.

I turned off the Sox/Yanks on Friday night after about the 6th inning. I got in a car and started driving home from Florida with my family. When I finally got into the NY area Saturday afternoon, I picked up the Saturday game on 880 AM. Susan Waldman was talking about second-guessing the Friday night game and how that play was the changing point in the game. And I'm thinking, jeez, they're talking like the Sox came back, but there's no way. . .

Sure made the last 4 hours of my drive go by easier. :D

Well, well, Mr. Annoying Spelling Guy, I believe she does not use that spelling for her first name. ;)

1) How am I supposed to know how to spell her name from listening to the radio? :p

2) Totally off-topic, and mostly for Dan: Shana Hiatt is hosting the Nat'l Heads-Up Poker Tournament on NBC right now!! Must See TV!!

Screw baseball. The NBA playoffs is my life!

:p

Well I must say that I left home (on Friday) around the 7th inning when I believe the score was 6-2...or something like that. After reading Chuck's post I had to go look up Friday's scores because I didn't believe him! ;)

Tigers finally are on the good end of blowing 2 run leads.
White Sox bull pen throws smoke.

Cards win a battle today in Chicago, win the series.

With 2 outs. . .

Manny
Drew
Lowell
Tek

First time in Red Sox history.

And they're still only up by one. :)

And we are surprised why?

Peace

Don't you get the NY Sunday papers? Actually, I believe I read a story on her being a cancer survivor a couple of years ago or I wouldn't have known it was Suzyn.

Cause ya never know...;)

Well, that was a fun weekend!! We'll have to see if they can keep it up in NY next weekend.

How about because it hasn't happend very often the last few years?...

:p

This just in.....

The Cubbie's Mark Prior will have exploratory shoulder surgery tomorrow.

And in other news, the sun is expected to rise in the east.

Marlins pitcher Dontrelle Willis' wife gave birth to a baby yesterday. ESPN.com had run a poll asking if pro athletes should work on the day their children are born. Over 70% responded that they should not.

Added the SportsCenter anchor, "90% also said that Dontrelle should name the new baby 'Whatchu talkin' 'bout' ". :D

I hate to give JR more ammunition than he already has, but I love this strip, and I thought some of you might enjoy this one.

http://www.comics.com/comics/getfuzz...7041261835.jpg

Implicit in this statement is that you think some of us might not enjoy it.

We can only conclude that you are a mean spirited trouble maker. Whoever you are.

Thanks, Chuck.

Some of us might enjoy it.

Some of us might not. :p

Well, I certainly enjoyed it.

Go ahead, laugh it up, fuzzball...

Speaking of laughing fuzzballs...

http://www.witz.org/images/chewielovesleia7a.jpg

(you knew I would, didn't ya?)

Well, you can't call him a stupid monkey.

And yes, there was never any doubt in my mind that you'd post that.

Thanks, Dan. I'm off the hook for this one.

:D

Chuck is going to be so mad at you guys if you get his baseball thread locked!!!

Whoever Chuck is...

Absolutely false. Logically, "some" is equivalent to "at least one", and can include "all".

"Some people enjoyed this" is true if only one person enjoyed it.
"Some people enjoyed this" is also true if everybody enjoyed it.

I can only conclude that you never took a Logic course (or at least, that you never took a Logic course that I've taught :D ).

I just watched "Empire Strikes Back" and "Return of the Jedi" with my daughter in the last couple of weeks. I don't remember that <s>grope</s> scene. Must have been in Episode IV.

So, if I say "some people are short", it can logically follow that "all people are short"?

Scary thought........

Not that I've got anything against short people. I just wouldn't want my daughter to marry one.

Some of my best friends are short people.

So, does this mean that "some" of your friends look up to you?

Only by extension.

Anyway, Chuck's argument falls apart because he chooses to ignore the meaning of the word "might" - according to one web dictionary it is "used to indicate possibility or probability". For the philosophy majors out there: the probability of something happening ranges from 0 to 1. Zero probability means something is statistically impossible, it will not happen. Example - the probability of Chuck touching the top of his kitchen counter without standing tippy-toe is zero.

So my original statement stands: saying some *might* enjoy something implies some *might not* enjoy it.

We now return you to your regulary scheduled off-topic thread.

This is simply not true. "Some" is simply a subset of "all". The subset might be the same size as the set of "all". Addutionally, if I know that you WILL enjoy it, it would also be true to say that you might enjoy it. It has nothing to do with probability at all.

Not that it really matters, b/c the Yankees are in last place and they have no pitching at all besides Pettitte. And what's the deal with pitching Pettitte in relief between starts?

That's correct, and that's my point. What you refuse to accept is the possibility that less than "all" might enjoy it - IOW that there will be those who do not enjoy it. Oh well... :shrug: Get back to me after Labor Day & we'll pick this topic up again. There are some who might agree with me btw...which according to your way of thinking means that everyone agrees it's entirely too early to be looking at the standings or the pitching.

Which means even the Cubs have a chance, right?

"Addutionally"?:confused:

http://www.forumspile.com/Stupid-Sit_in_the_corner.jpg

Notice that his l'il feet don't touch the floor?

PS- I thought that Dan <b>might</b> enjoy that.

Some might not agree with that.

He might. <b> </b>

What's with all the short jokes?? If I were short, I [B]might[B] be offended by all these short jokes...

Uhmmm, never mind.

No.<i></b>

We're trying to be serious here, y'know.:rolleyes:

But, given that "some" does not necessarily equal "all", "some" plus "some" equals "all", in a large number of cases.

Therefore, some might not agree, but some will.

(What was the question again?)

In short: yes, we agree 138%.

You must have been one of those guys that score 110 on their math tests.

Yep, I was.

It took me three tests to get there though...

Additionally, it means they all do.

<B>All</B> your friends are short? :confused:

What are the odds of that?

It's not by chance. People who are taller than me can be acquaintances. Friends must be shorter; it makes me feel superior. ;)

Pretty freaking impossible for some of us!!:mad:

Some might find this understandable. Some of your friends might enjoy this CD

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ver.jpg/200px-

So just for the fun of it, I ventured over to the baseball thread and read a few of the threads there...sheesh - CoachJinx is an idiot over there too, and they have some kid from Canada who is a raving lunatic - not going back there anytime soon!

Here's an interesting article:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2847416

No good deed goes unpunished. I wonder if Hunter will get suspended for the minimum 3 years?

(PS - It's kind of a short article, in keeping with the theme of the thread.)

You forgot to say that some might enjoy it.

Anyway 4 bottles of champagne won't go very far among 25 players + coaches + press + publicists/agents + amphetimine , HGH and steroid salespeople.

roflmao -- jesus christ that was good -- joke of the week

besides I love what rules sports chose to try to appear to enforce and what they blatantly try to ignore.

but Dan not to take away from your post -- if I was drinking anything right now it would have been respectfully deposited on my screen.

The Cubbies' Mark Prior is done for the year after shoulder surgery.

All kidding aside, that is a real shame. He was a promising, hopeful staff ace that was derailed by constant injuries.

We now resume our regular dumping on the Cubs.

Just an aside, but wouldn't it be great to bring in a 2nd baseman to lob in pitches for 755 & 756 to truly cheapen the record?

Yea, I saw that too. Actually, the injury that started it had nothing to do with pitching - it was a result of running into one of the Giles brothers on the basepath a few years back. His shoulder has never been the same since.

Interesting idea.

Can you bring in the bullpen catcher...? Prolly not.

Given that it was the KC Royals, maybe they could use some of that champagne to attract better drug dealers.

They can say that, but I still believe that Dusty Baker ruined both Prior and Wood by overpitching them when he was in charge there.

Despite what anyone says, I don't think that he is a quality manager. He sacrificed the future of his players so that he could obtain wins during his tenure and land a large deal for himself.

Smokin' !
Zumaya only hits 102, ... infrequently.

Sounds right, like Francisco Liriano was abused last year in the Cities.

Wow! I like it.

Mick, it has been well-documented that Baker left those guys out there for 135, 140, or even more pitches. That is what I am talking about. I think that he overworked them for his benefit. I have no idea what Minnesota did with Liriano.

Gee, say it isn't so, all you die-hard BoSox fans (you know who you are:) )........

http://www.boston.com/sports/basebal...6/bloody_mess/

The truth comes out. The famous Schilling bloody Sox sox was <b>painted</b> red for public relations reasons. Iow, the red sox wasn't actually a red sox.

If it's in GQ and on tv, it simply <b>has</b> to be true!

Tsk, tsk, tsk.......

Little kids are crying today all over New England.

I'm shocked that the Globe would even print allegations like that.

It ain't so.

Mirabelli adamantly denies ever making such a comment. The surgeon who performed the procedure on Schill says it was blood. Even Kevin Millar, who now plays for Balitimore, says it was blood. The curiator of the Baseball Hall of Fame, where the sock now resides, says that the stain has faded to a brownish color with some pink tints. That would happen with blood, but not with paint.

Nobody in New England is crying about this. The likeliest answer would seem to be that Mirabelli was kidding around with Thorne, and Thorne didn't get the joke. But Mirabelli denies ever saying anything about it to Thorne -- even as a joke -- and got visibly upset when addressing the media about it. So why would Thorne throw it out there? Wierd.

Aren't you supposed to repeat the word 'shocked' in posts like that?