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Jurassic Referee Thu Apr 26, 2007 08:30am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Dexter
I'm shocked that the Globe would even print allegations like that.

If it's in the paper, it must be true.

In other MLB news, Barry Bonds' home run record chase became even more difficult today....

http://www.theonion.com/content/news..._aaron_with_50

Yessir, the <b>new</b> MLB home run record is now 805, and counting.....

It's true, it's true......

mick Thu Apr 26, 2007 08:34am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckElias
With 2 outs. . .

Manny
Drew
Lowell
Tek

First time in Red Sox history.

And they're still only up by one. :)

[from detroitnews.com]
Really rare feat
Good work by the Boston Globe to figure out, with the help of three mathematicians, the precise extent of the rarity that happened when the Red Sox hit four consecutive home runs Sunday.
Outfielder J.D. Drew hit the second of the four, just as he did last September for the Dodgers. To have any team hitting four consecutive home runs is rare enough, but to have the same player hit the second home run for both teams, well, just how rare is that?
One in 14.3 million was the answer.
But it happened.

Dan_ref Thu Apr 26, 2007 09:51am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckElias
It ain't so.

The surgeon who performed the procedure on Schill says it was blood.

Yeah, here he is now experimenting with new, advanced surgical techniques he's developing (I think he calls it "blue").

Why don't we ask him when he <s>gets off the ladder</s> comes out of the operating room?

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/im...inter-tumb.jpg

Dan_ref Thu Apr 26, 2007 09:53am

Quote:

Originally Posted by mick
[from detroitnews.com]
Really rare feat
Good work by the Boston Globe to figure out, with the help of three mathematicians, the precise extent of the rarity that happened when the Red Sox hit four consecutive home runs Sunday.
Outfielder J.D. Drew hit the second of the four, just as he did last September for the Dodgers. To have any team hitting four consecutive home runs is rare enough, but to have the same player hit the second home run for both teams, well, just how rare is that?
One in 14.3 million was the answer.
But it happened.

Wonder how they came up with that number.

I would have said the probability is 100%, since it's never happened any other way.

rockyroad Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:22am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckElias
It ain't so.

Mirabelli adamantly denies ever making such a comment. The surgeon who performed the procedure on Schill says it was blood. Even Kevin Millar, who now plays for Balitimore, says it was blood. The curiator of the Baseball Hall of Fame, where the sock now resides, says that the stain has faded to a brownish color with some pink tints. That would happen with blood, but not with paint.

Nobody in New England is crying about this. The likeliest answer would seem to be that Mirabelli was kidding around with Thorne, and Thorne didn't get the joke. But Mirabelli denies ever saying anything about it to Thorne -- even as a joke -- and got visibly upset when addressing the media about it. So why would Thorne throw it out there? Wierd.


Of course he denies it and got visibly upset...he knows Schilling's going to kick his butt in the clubhouse today!!:eek:

Jurassic Referee Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:47am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan_ref
I would have said the probability is 100%, since it's never happened any other way.

Maybe even 110%.....

Jurassic Referee Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:49am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckElias
Mirabelli adamantly denies ever making such a comment. The surgeon who performed the procedure on Schill says it was blood. Even Kevin Millar, who now plays for Balitimore, says it was blood. The curiator of the Baseball Hall of Fame, where the sock now resides, says that the stain has faded to a brownish color with some pink tints. That would happen with blood, but not with paint.

And who are they?

All part of <b>"The Plot"</b>!

Jurassic Referee Thu Apr 26, 2007 01:38pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockyroad
Of course he denies it and got visibly upset...he knows Schilling's going to kick his butt in the clubhouse today!!:eek:

Further investigation by your favorite <i>besibol</i> correspondent brings up the following article from a neutral writer back in 2004........

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/b...orts-headlines

Note that the BoSox Director of Public Information said at that there was a possibility that blood <b>might</b> have not been the only substance there. And Schilling himself was quoted as saying there <b>might</b> be a little bit of blood. Note the "might"!

We <b>might</b> be on to something here that warrants much further investigation.

M&M Guy Thu Apr 26, 2007 03:53pm

This is what happens to people who take back their gifts:

http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/story/10151168

Dan_ref Thu Apr 26, 2007 05:01pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Further investigation by your favorite <i>besibol</i> correspondent brings up the following article from a neutral writer back in 2004........

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/b...orts-headlines

Note that the BoSox Director of Public Information said at that there was a possibility that blood <b>might</b> have not been the only substance there. And Schilling himself was quoted as saying there <b>might</b> be a little bit of blood. Note the "might"!

We <b>might</b> be on to something here that warrants much further investigation.

So what's blood red and found on some people's feet but not blood?

You saying this is gonna be an even bigger story??!!!

http://a1468.g.akamai.net/f/1468/580.../79514/200.jpg

(not that there's anything wrong with that...)

JRutledge Thu Apr 26, 2007 05:13pm

I am watching SportsCenter right now. Gary Thorne is backing off the story. Maribelle (sp?) admitted to joking to Thorne and Throne took it seriously. Apparently this story is all to do about nothing.

Peace

26 Year Gap Thu Apr 26, 2007 06:55pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge
I am watching SportsCenter right now. Gary Thorne is backing off the story. Maribelle (sp?) admitted to joking to Thorne and Throne took it seriously. Apparently this story is all to do about nothing.

Peace

Guess Gary needs to get the paint out of his ears.

ChuckElias Thu Apr 26, 2007 09:48pm

I know you're all going to say "it's only April", but man, the Yankees look genuinely awful. They lose again at home and fall to 8-12. Their pitching is atrocious and they're pinning their hopes on getting Mussina and Pavano back? The bullpen is so bad that Torre has used Pettitte between starts twice already this month.

The Sox come up with another come-from-behind win and look ok, despite Manny and Papi slumping early. (Manny's batting around .185!) I hate getting sucked into being optimistic in April!

ChuckElias Fri Apr 27, 2007 08:58pm

You walk the first 3 guys to start an inning and, gee, you think you might have some problems? Yankees get 4 off Dice-K in the 4th. Fortunately, Sox come right back against Pettitte. 6-4, but it's not over yet.

26 Year Gap Sat Apr 28, 2007 05:12pm

Wow...the Lions drafted another WR for their number 1 pick.

Jurassic Referee Sat Apr 28, 2007 07:12pm

That steroid story that just broke out of New York today could very well be the year's biggest sports story before it's over. Apparently there is a pile of current and past Major Leaguers involved. The supplier agreed to co-operate too with both the prosecutors and the MLB investigation into steroid use.

Stay tuned......

Mark Dexter Sat Apr 28, 2007 09:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckElias
The curiator of the Baseball Hall of Fame, where the sock now resides, says that the stain has faded to a brownish color with some pink tints. That would happen with blood, but not with paint.

I tend to think it was blood in Game 6 of the ALCS, but the sock at the HoF is actually from Game 2 of the WS.

Mark Dexter Sat Apr 28, 2007 09:05pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap
Aren't you supposed to repeat the word 'shocked' in posts like that?

Only in regards to gambling:

I'm shocked - shocked to find that an over/under value can be in integer!

Nevadaref Sun Apr 29, 2007 05:23am

<TABLE class=yspwhitebg cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=560 border=0><TBODY><TR class=yspsctbg><TD class=ysptblhdr colSpan=10 height=19>The Yankees did get one thing right when it comes to pitching.


</TD></TR><TR class=ysptblthbody2 align=right><TD width="32%" height=18> </TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">IP</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">H</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">R</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">ER</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">BB</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">K</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">HR</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="19%" colSpan=2>Season ERA </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD align=left>J. Weaver (L, 0-4)</TD><TD>0.1</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>18.26</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
OUCH!

tjones1 Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:05am

Sad news in St. Louis today...

Cards P Hancock dies in car accident
http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/10156986

mick Sun Apr 29, 2007 01:38pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap
Wow...the Lions drafted another WR for their number 1 pick.

Calvin Johnson, WR Georgia Tech [skills of Keyshawn, body of Terrell, work ethic of Jerry], threw out the first pitch at Comerica today.
It was high, ... way high.

[I had to find something related to the thread. :) ]

ChuckElias Sun Apr 29, 2007 03:39pm

Well, that was fun. Five out of the first six go to the Sox. Papelbon looks great again. Ortiz hit a no-doubter into the 3rd deck, Manny hit one out, Cora hit one out and almost had a second one (had to settle for a triple). Manny only had one brain-fart (on the bases). Tavarez looked like himself (terrible), but the Sox won anyway.

Torre's probably going to take the blame, but he shouldn't.

BTW, anybody notice that the home plate ump was wearing a "livestrong" type bracelet, only it was black? Anybody know why?

26 Year Gap Sun Apr 29, 2007 08:20pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckElias
Well, that was fun. Five out of the first six go to the Sox. Papelbon looks great again. Ortiz hit a no-doubter into the 3rd deck, Manny hit one out, Cora hit one out and almost had a second one (had to settle for a triple). Manny only had one brain-fart (on the bases). Tavarez looked like himself (terrible), but the Sox won anyway.

Torre's probably going to take the blame, but he shouldn't.

BTW, anybody notice that the home plate ump was wearing a "livestrong" type bracelet, only it was black? Anybody know why?

Maybe it has to be something that does not draw attention. If he wore it above the elbow, it would be a problem, though.

Dan_ref Sun Apr 29, 2007 09:11pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckElias
Well, that was fun. Five out of the first six go to the Sox. Papelbon looks great again. Ortiz hit a no-doubter into the 3rd deck, Manny hit one out, Cora hit one out and almost had a second one (had to settle for a triple). Manny only had one brain-fart (on the bases). Tavarez looked like himself (terrible), but the Sox won anyway.

Torre's probably going to take the blame, but he shouldn't.

BTW, anybody notice that the home plate ump was wearing a "livestrong" type bracelet, only it was black? Anybody know why?

Black wristbands are for hurricane Katrina (I know, you dinks in MA could care less about what happens south of Pawtucket).

Anyways...let's go Mets :rolleyes:

Jurassic Referee Sun Apr 29, 2007 10:36pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan_ref
Anyways...let's go Mets :rolleyes:

Hush yo mouth, chile!

Don't even kid about that.:D

M&M Guy Mon Apr 30, 2007 09:22am

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjones1
Sad news in St. Louis today...

Cards P Hancock dies in car accident
http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/10156986

... that's too bad. I couldn't tell from any of the early articles if he was married, or had any kids, but I hope not - that would just add another layer of sadness to the story.

First Daryl Kile, now Josh Hancock. And, both happened during series with the Cubs. Strange.

M&M Guy Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:01am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Hush yo mouth, chile!

Don't even kid about that.:D

I saw an interesting stat - the Yankees used 5 or more pitchers in the last 10 consectutive games, which was the most consectutive games in the last 50 years.

Kinda makes the Cubs' pitching staff look solid, don't it? :D

tjones1 Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:11am

Quote:

Originally Posted by M&M Guy
The Cards will do anything to get out of getting swept by the Cubs... ;)

Seriously, that's too bad. I couldn't tell from any of the early articles if he was married, or had any kids, but I hope not - that would just add another layer of sadness to the story.

First Daryl Kile, now Josh Hancock. And, both happened during series with the Cubs. Strange.

Very sad. No kids and he wasn't married.

It is very strange. I was reading a story on another board where this guy rented buses to go watch the game 5 years ago (church group, I believe). They again had buses rented to go watch the game last night...very strange.

M&M Guy Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:16am

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjones1
Very sad. No kids and he wasn't married.

It is very strange. I was reading a story on another board where this guy rented buses to go watch the game 5 years ago (church group, I believe). They again has buses rented to go watch the game last night...very strange.

Wow.

I'd be willing to bet they guy's first name has four letters, like "Kyle", and the guy's last name has 7 leters, like "Hancock".

(Cue "Twilight Zone" music.)

Mark Dexter Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by M&M Guy
I saw an interesting stat - the Yankees used 5 or more pitchers in the last 10 consectutive games, which was the most consectutive games in the last 50 years.

Kinda makes the Cubs' pitching staff look solid, don't it? :D

Not to mention a starter on Saturday going 0.0 innings and facing two batters.

JRutledge Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:17pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Dexter
Not to mention a starter on Saturday going 0.0 innings and facing two batters.

It really is a low blow to talk about Mark Prior's season. That is just cold. :D

Peace

M&M Guy Mon Apr 30, 2007 01:30pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge
It really is a low blow to talk about Mark Prior's season. That is just cold. :D

Peace

Hey! Watch it...

Besides, he couldn't have been talking about Prior, because Prior hasn't faced <B>any</B> batters this season. :rolleyes:

JRutledge Mon Apr 30, 2007 01:33pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by M&M Guy
Hey! Watch it...

Besides, he couldn't have been talking about Prior, because Prior hasn't faced <B>any</B> batters this season. :rolleyes:

I lost count of how many innings or batters he faces. Considering it sounds like the same story over and over again with him. Or was I talking about Kerry Wood? ;)

Peace

M&M Guy Mon Apr 30, 2007 01:37pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge
I lost count of how many innings or batters he faces. Considering it sounds like the same story over and over again with him. Or was I talking about Kerry Wood? ;)

Peace

Yea, they do seem to be rather interchangeable sometimes.

JRutledge Mon Apr 30, 2007 01:55pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by M&M Guy
Yea, they do seem to be rather interchangeable sometimes.

Funny thing about that. There is a radio show that had a contest for listeners to send in a song with a Cubs and Sox theme. The hosts would give away tickets to an event for the best song. As usual the songs are covers of popular or existing songs. Well one guy did a song with the "Love and Marriage" that Frank Sinatra sung.

One of the lines was...."Love and Marriage...Love and Marriage, they (Wood and Prior) are held together with some string and wire" If find the song online (which I believe they post as well) then I will try to post it here.

Peace

Mark Dexter Mon Apr 30, 2007 05:09pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge
It really is a low blow to talk about Mark Prior's season. That is just cold. :D

Peace

Well - at least he has a 0.00 ERA.

Or would it be approaching infinity? :D

Adam Mon Apr 30, 2007 05:15pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Dexter
Well - at least he has a 0.00 ERA.

Or would it be approaching infinity? :D

I believe the correct term is "undefined."

Jurassic Referee Wed May 02, 2007 12:12am

Geeze, you finally get a good pitching job, and out of your prize rookie too, and he DL's himself for 4-6 weeks. Had a no-hitter going at the time too.

The Yanks are snake-bitten so far this year.

Nevadaref Wed May 02, 2007 01:49am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Geeze, you finally get a good pitching job, and out of your prize rookie too, and he DL's himself for 4-6 weeks. Had a no-hitter going at the time too.

The Yanks are snake-bitten so far this year.

Well, do you remember that deal with the devil that they made a few years back to get into all of those World Series? It looks like he's collecting. :D

M&M Guy Wed May 02, 2007 09:00am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Geeze, you finally get a good pitching job, and out of your prize rookie too, and he DL's himself for 4-6 weeks.

Hmmm...where have I heard that before?

Welcome to my world.

ChuckElias Wed May 02, 2007 09:17am

Quote:

Originally Posted by M&M Guy
Quote:

Originally Posted by JR
Geeze, you finally get a good pitching job, and out of your prize rookie too, and he DL's himself for 4-6 weeks.

Welcome to my world.

Does this mean the Yankees are the new Cubbies?!?!?! :D No World Series wins for another 100 years?!?!?! Woo-hoo!! I can't wait to see Brian Cashman sacrificing a goat at home plate of Yankee Stadium. The mind boggles! Almost takes the sting out of Papelbon blowing his first save of the season last night.

Forgot to mention this, but did anybody see that Pujols walked on three pitches in the top of the 6th of Monday night's game against the Brewers? Ball three and he trots down to first and nobody said anything. Didn't matter, as the next guy grounded into a double play to end the inning. But I wonder what kind of grief the umpire crew got for that.

Jurassic Referee Wed May 02, 2007 09:30am

Quote:

Originally Posted by M&M Guy
Welcome to my world.

Yabut......<b>you</b> deserve it.

M&M Guy Wed May 02, 2007 09:31am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckElias
Forgot to mention this, but did anybody see that Pujols walked on three pitches in the top of the 6th of Monday night's game against the Brewers? Ball three and he trots down to first and nobody said anything. Didn't matter, as the next guy grounded into a double play to end the inning. But I wonder what kind of grief the umpire crew got for that.

I was watching that game and saw when they went through the pitch-by-pitch, but I could've sworn they skipped a pitch when they counted the three balls. I was doing something else at the time, so I wasn't paying real close attention, but I remember wondering what the big deal was at the time. Have you seen any article or mention about it anywhere?

M&M Guy Wed May 02, 2007 09:32am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Yabut......<b>you</b> deserve it.

And <B>you</B> don't, Mr. Personalized Handbasket??

Jurassic Referee Wed May 02, 2007 09:36am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckElias
Forgot to mention this, but did anybody see that Pujols walked on three pitches in the top of the 6th of Monday night's game against the Brewers? Ball three and he trots down to first and nobody said anything. Didn't matter, as the next guy grounded into a double play to end the inning. But I wonder what kind of grief the umpire crew got for that.

I asked that question over on the <i>beisbol</i> forum yesterday in a kind of tangential thread that is running over there. The crew missed the 3-ball walk, but apparently nothing can be done about it after the next pitch.

The thread over there is about the protest from the Cleveland/Milwaukee game on Monday night. There should have been a run scored on a timing play, but the home plate umpire screwed up the call. Apparently, the crew chief sent one of his crew members in later to actually check the rule book, confirmed that they screwed it up, and then put the run on the board <b>three</b> innings later. The debate is whether they can do that or not. I'll go find a link to that thread and come back and put it on here.

http://forum.officiating.com/showthread.php?t=34066

Jurassic Referee Wed May 02, 2007 09:41am

Quote:

Originally Posted by M&M Guy
I was watching that game and saw when they went through the pitch-by-pitch, but I could've sworn they skipped a pitch when they counted the three balls. I was doing something else at the time, so I wasn't paying real close attention, but I remember wondering what the big deal was at the time. Have you seen any article or mention about it anywhere?

There was a mention of it in an AP report of the game, but because there was no protest and the play was meaningless to the outcome, it was pretty-much a non-story.

Jurassic Referee Wed May 02, 2007 09:45am

Quote:

Originally Posted by M&M Guy
And <B>you</B> don't, Mr. Personalized Handbasket??

Well, at least you didn't yell at me this time and make me cry.
http://1000smilies.com/animated/crying.gif

Mark Dexter Wed May 02, 2007 02:05pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
I asked that question over on the <i>beisbol</i> forum yesterday in a kind of tangential thread that is running over there. The crew missed the 3-ball walk, but apparently nothing can be done about it after the next pitch.

The thread over there is about the protest from the Cleveland/Milwaukee game on Monday night. There should have been a run scored on a timing play, but the home plate umpire screwed up the call. Apparently, the crew chief sent one of his crew members in later to actually check the rule book, confirmed that they screwed it up, and then put the run on the board <b>three</b> innings later. The debate is whether they can do that or not. I'll go find a link to that thread and come back and put it on here.

http://forum.officiating.com/showthread.php?t=34066

The incident was actually during a Cleveland-Baltimore game, and I believe it occurred on Saturday.

Either way, MLB issued a ruling today that the protest would not be upheld.

Nevadaref Wed May 02, 2007 06:21pm

Quote:
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=alt2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px inset; BORDER-TOP: 1px inset; BORDER-LEFT: 1px inset; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px inset">Originally Posted by M&M Guy
I was watching that game and saw when they went through the pitch-by-pitch, but I could've sworn they skipped a pitch when they counted the three balls. I was doing something else at the time, so I wasn't paying real close attention, but I remember wondering what the big deal was at the time. Have you seen any article or mention about it anywhere?
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
There was a mention of it in an AP report of the game, but because there was no protest and the play was meaningless to the outcome, it was pretty-much a non-story.

SportsCenter also played the at bat pitch by pitch and counted the balls and strikes. I believe that he fouled off two pitches and that is probably where the confusion came in. There is no doubt that only three balls were thrown. Funny that not even the pitcher objected!

Nevadaref Wed May 02, 2007 06:33pm

Meaningless MLB factoid for Chuck.

Braves rookie catcher, Jarrod Saltalamacchia, will make his major league debut tonight against the Phillies.

So what's the big news?

His 14 letter last name is the longest surname in the history of MLB! :eek:

Dan_ref Wed May 02, 2007 07:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckElias
Does this mean the Yankees are the new Cubbies?!?!?! :D No World Series wins for another 100 years?!?!?!

By nature Yankees fans are optimists. Given their history what else would you expect?

So, to answer your question: no,

We're optimistic that we won't fall to the level of the Cubs.

We're hoping to pull out of it by the time we reach Red Sox territory (8th circle for you Dante fans out there).

Nevadaref Thu May 03, 2007 02:13am

Does anyone know the formula for who plays whom in the interleague games this year?

I know that from 1997 to 2001 it was done by the division (AL East played NL East, AL West vs. NL West, etc.), but now the teams play opponents from various divisions. So does anyone know exactly how the schedule is done?

ChuckElias Thu May 03, 2007 07:19am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref
Does anyone know the formula for who plays whom in the interleague games this year?

AL East is playing NL West; AL Central is playing NL Central; AL West is playing NL East.

Red Sox also play Atlanta, as their "traditional rival". :rolleyes:

Jurassic Referee Thu May 03, 2007 07:30am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckElias
Red Sox also play Atlanta, as their "traditional rival". :rolleyes:

Atlanta Braves formerly the Milwaukee Braves formerly the <b>Boston</b> Braves.........

The Braves and the Cubs are the the only two charter members of the original National League remaining. I'd say that's tradition.

M&M Guy Thu May 03, 2007 08:52am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Well, at least you didn't yell at me this time and make me cry.
http://1000smilies.com/animated/crying.gif

Here:

http://www.kleenex.com/Images/produc...oral_white.jpg

M&M Guy Thu May 03, 2007 08:54am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan_ref
We're optimistic that we won't fall to the level of the Cubs.

And we're optimistic we won't fall to the level of the Evil Empire.

Well, at least until Mark Cuban buys the team.

Dan_ref Thu May 03, 2007 05:25pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by M&M Guy
And we're optimistic we won't fall to the level of the Evil Empire.

Good, we agree.

No one will ever mistake the Yankees for the Cubs (or vice versa).

Nevadaref Thu May 03, 2007 06:09pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckElias
Red Sox also play Atlanta, as their "traditional rival". :rolleyes:

That is the part that I am talking about. Do you know how the rivals were selected or even who matches up with whom? Is there only one rival for each team or are there more?

Jurassic Referee Fri May 04, 2007 05:12am

Things are getting back to normal.

The Yankees win 2. Rivera saved both games. The other Savior, Dice K, gives up 7 earned runs and 5 walks in 5 innings. Got an ERA of 5.45 now. He did have a strikeout though. One. And yes, DJ, Manny shoulda been nailed on strikes before he homered in the 8th. He did go around on that checked swing. Doesn't really matter anyway; the M's woulda found some other way to blow it.

And, of course, the Cubbies went winless again yesterday also.

ChuckElias Fri May 04, 2007 07:54am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref
That is the part that I am talking about. Do you know how the rivals were selected or even who matches up with whom? Is there only one rival for each team or are there more?

I don't really know, Nevada. I think that we get Atlanta every year. They're our traditional "rival", as JR pointed out, b/c of Atlanta's roots in Boston. But I don't know how everybody else's are chosen.

ChuckElias Fri May 04, 2007 08:07am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Dice K, gives up 7 earned runs and 5 walks in 5 innings.

He's struggling at Fenway so far. It's not the ballpark, tho, when you walk the first three hitters of the game. Last time, he waited until the 4th inning to walk the first 3 hitters. When he's settled in, he's really good. But he gets himself into really bad stretches a little too often.

Quote:

And yes, DJ, Manny shoulda been nailed on strikes before he homered in the 8th. He did go around on that checked swing.
I think I remember the check swing. I don't seem to remember thinking "Ooo, he got away with one." And I don't remember the announcer (Jerry Remy, former Sox 2nd baseman, and a better announcer than 90% of the bozos you hear on national TV) commenting on it.

What should happen, tho, is that when the Sox visit Seattle, the M's pitcher places a large bruise in Manny's ribs with the first pitch he throws. I am a staunch defender of Manny, but he behaved very badly after the second home run. He stood there, walked 10 steps or so, started to jog, pointed to the heavens with both hands, rounded the bases, tossed his helmet away and then jumped up and down with his (reluctant) teammates as if it was a walk-off game-winner.

I know he's been off to a slow start and he was probably genuinely happy to have a great game, but I wouldn't object if the M's gave him a wake-up call in Seattle.

M&M Guy Fri May 04, 2007 08:48am

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
And, of course, the Cubbies went winless again yesterday also.

A few more days like that, and the Cubs just might be mistaken for the Yankees this season. :p

M&M Guy Fri May 04, 2007 09:11am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckElias
I think I remember the check swing. I don't seem to remember thinking "Ooo, he got away with one." And I don't remember the announcer (Jerry Remy, former Sox 2nd baseman, and a better announcer than 90% of the bozos you hear on national TV) commenting on it.

What should happen, tho, is that when the Sox visit Seattle, the M's pitcher places a large bruise in Manny's ribs with the first pitch he throws. I am a staunch defender of Manny, but he behaved very badly after the second home run. He stood there, walked 10 steps or so, started to jog, pointed to the heavens with both hands, rounded the bases, tossed his helmet away and then jumped up and down with his (reluctant) teammates as if it was a walk-off game-winner.

I know he's been off to a slow start and he was probably genuinely happy to have a great game, but I wouldn't object if the M's gave him a wake-up call in Seattle.

I hope this helps poor Manny:

http://www.sportsline.com/spin/story/10164295

mick Fri May 04, 2007 06:54pm

Hmmm.
 
I guess Jeff Weaver isn't the Mariners' only pitcher.

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Nevadaref Fri May 04, 2007 08:03pm

Igawa can't hold a five run first-inning lead today.

ChuckElias Sat May 05, 2007 08:04am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref
Meaningless MLB factoid for Chuck.

And here's one for you! Randy Johnson pitched last night for the D'backs. When he faced Julio Franco of the Mets, it was the highest combined age for a pitcher/hitter matchup in the history of MLB. Franco is almost 49 years old and Johnson is almost 44.

Yankees score 11 runs; Sox score 2 runs. Who ended up winning last night? :D

Jurassic Referee Sat May 05, 2007 09:01am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckElias
Yankees score 11 runs; Sox score 2 runs. Who ended up winning last night? :D

We'd have been OK except for the 2 missed field goals.

Mark Dexter Sat May 05, 2007 09:42am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckElias
And here's one for you! Randy Johnson pitched last night for the D'backs. When he faced Julio Franco of the Mets, it was the highest combined age for a pitcher/hitter matchup in the history of MLB. Franco is almost 49 years old and Johnson is almost 44.

I have to wonder if you're related to the Elias of sports statistics fame.

Also, I've heard from Mets fans that Franco's age isn't quite pinned down.

rockyroad Sat May 05, 2007 01:56pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
We'd have been OK except for the 2 missed field goals.

Still laughing this morning...gonna be a long season for the Yanks and the M's with that kind of pitching!!

mick Sat May 05, 2007 03:18pm

If only they hadn't traded Jeff Weaver.
 
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Mark Dexter Sat May 05, 2007 04:21pm

Chien-Ming Wang is apparently working on a perfect game going into the top of the 6th.

Interestingly, if he does end up with a perfect game, the only other time the feat had been accomplished on Cinco de Mayo was by a no-name pitcher named Cy Young who happened to pitch for Boston at the time.

ChuckElias Sat May 05, 2007 04:36pm

He got through the 6th. But still only up 1-0.

I think I heard somebody on Fox say that Pavano was done for the year! :eek: ESPN is reporting only that he's being examined again this week.

Jurassic Referee Sat May 05, 2007 06:52pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckElias
I think I heard somebody on Fox say that Pavano was done for the year! :eek: ESPN is reporting only that he's being examined again this week.

The Fox website has no definitive information on Pavano. I read in one of the NY papers this morning that they couldn't even confirm that he showed up for his appointment yesterday. Who cares anyway?

Pavano might be one of the worst signings ever. By any team.

rockyroad Sat May 05, 2007 08:29pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Pavano might be one of the worst signings ever. By any team.


Worse than the 8.25 Million Weaver's getting???:mad: I don't think so...

Nevadaref Sun May 06, 2007 05:49am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckElias
And here's one for you! Randy Johnson pitched last night for the D'backs. When he faced Julio Franco of the Mets, it was the highest combined age for a pitcher/hitter matchup in the history of MLB. Franco is almost 49 years old and Johnson is almost 44.

Was that the stat on Espn or did they note that when France hit a homerun, that it was the oldest pitcher/hitter pair for a homerun in MLB history? Of course, both may be true.

Nevadaref Sun May 06, 2007 06:00am

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/mlb_experts/

Five and Fly: Franco's power is old news

By Tim Brown
Saturday, May 5, 2007 2:58 pm EDT


Julio Franco – 48 years, eight months, 12 days old – homered Friday night off Randy Johnson – 43 years, seven months, 25 days old. That's more than 92 years of ballplayer right there and, unfortunately for Johnson, the fastball Franco hit sort of looked it, considering its left turn signal was on for three miles.
Franco, of course, is the oldest player to hit a home run in the major leagues, a union of gerontology and baseball that began last April 20 and has extended through two more homers, the latest at Chase Field in Phoenix. And now Johnson has a part, the two combining for the oldest home run in history, thrown-and-hit category.

ChuckElias Sun May 06, 2007 07:20am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref
And now Johnson has a part, the two combining for the oldest home run in history, thrown-and-hit category.

On SportsCenter, they said the Johnson/Franco pairing was the oldest in regular-season history. Maybe there was a pairing of older players in an old World Series, and this is the oldest pairing to result in a home run.

M&M Guy Sun May 06, 2007 02:54pm

The Rocket back to the Yankees?

Jurassic Referee Sun May 06, 2007 03:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by M&M Guy
The Rocket back to the Yankees?

Yup, announced it himself during the seventh inning stretch at the Yankees game.

He's a dickhead, but he's <b>our</b> dickhead.

Mark Dexter Sun May 06, 2007 03:59pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Yup, announced it himself during the seventh inning stretch at the Yankees game.

He's a dickhead, but he's <b>our</b> dickhead.

So is Steinbrenner moving Yankee Stadium down to Houston, or is the rocket just going to pitch during Yanks-Rangers series?

Jurassic Referee Sun May 06, 2007 04:07pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Dexter
So is Steinbrenner moving Yankee Stadium down to Houston, or is the rocket just going to pitch during Yanks-Rangers series?

28 mil pro-rated. 18 mil to pitch 4 months iow. Who knows what else they'll give him?

It pays to have a good pharmacist.....;)

Mark Dexter Sun May 06, 2007 06:38pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
28 mil pro-rated. 18 mil to pitch 4 months iow. Who knows what else they'll give him?

It pays to have a good pharmacist.....;)

Almost makes me wish I had passed on med school and gone to pharmacy school instead.



Almost.

mick Sun May 06, 2007 06:42pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Dexter
Almost makes me wish I had passed on med school and gone to pharmacy school instead.



Almost.

As a doctor, you'll get free samples for your friends.

mick Sun May 06, 2007 09:05pm

"Seattle Mariners reliever Julio Mateo was suspended for 10 days without pay Sunday, a day after he was arrested following a dispute with a woman at a Manhattan hotel." - usatoday.com

Can things get worse for that pitching staff ?

Mark Dexter Sun May 06, 2007 09:09pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mick
Can things get worse for that pitching staff ?

Never tempt the gods of baseball.

Dan_ref Sun May 06, 2007 09:55pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
28 mil pro-rated. 18 mil to pitch 4 months iow. Who knows what else they'll give him?

It pays to have a good pharmacist.....;)

Geeze.

And I would have done it for only 14 mil.

Anyway, thanks to their good friends in Texas and Seattle NY is 5 of 6 and has vaulted from the cellar to second place just behind you know who.

Mark Dexter Sun May 06, 2007 10:17pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan_ref
Anyway, thanks to their good friends in Texas and Seattle NY is 5 of 6 and has vaulted from the cellar to second place just behind you know who.

Hey - 5 1/2 games isn't "just behind" the Sox until after the All-Star Break.

Dan_ref Mon May 07, 2007 09:40am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Dexter
Hey - 5 1/2 games isn't "just behind" the Sox until after the All-Star Break.

Hey, none of this matters until around mid August & then gets serious after labor day.

Jurassic Referee Tue May 08, 2007 05:15am

Joel Zumaya is out for 12 weeks with a ruptured tendon in a finger on his throwing hand.

Bummer, mick.......

But.......you still got your Pistons. They look awesome.

mick Tue May 08, 2007 06:23am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Joel Zumaya is out for 12 weeks with a ruptured tendon in a finger on his throwing hand.

Bummer, mick.......

But.......you still got your Pistons. They look awesome.

JR,
I haven't read the cause of the injury anywhere.
Until I do, I am guessing he was screwin' around.
The injury could be a cheap lesson in vulnerabilty for a 22-yr.-old.

Luckily [for Tiger fans] the team batting average is up about 30 points in the past 10 days, or so.

Jurassic Referee Tue May 08, 2007 06:33am

Quote:

Originally Posted by mick
JR,
I haven't read the cause of the injury anywhere.
Until I do, I am guessing he was screwin' around.
The injury could be a cheap lesson in vulnerabilty for a 22-yr.-old.

Nope, he did it warming up in the bullpen, Mick. Threw a fastball and blooey. There she went. Sounds either like a freak injury or a weakness already there that was aggravated.

USA Today has a story on it on their website in Sports this morning.

With a talent like that, you sureasheck hope that he's gonna be OK.

mick Tue May 08, 2007 07:10am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Nope, he did it warming up in the bullpen, Mick. Threw a fastball and blooey. There she went. Sounds either like a freak injury or a weakness already there that was aggravated.

USA Today has a story on it on their website in Sports this morning.

With a talent like that, you sureasheck hope that he's gonna be OK.

Yer right.
The Tigers can use Zumaya's "Zoom Time".
But, I guess most teams would like some of that. :)

rockyroad Tue May 08, 2007 09:31am

Quote:

Originally Posted by mick
"Seattle Mariners reliever Julio Mateo was suspended for 10 days without pay Sunday, a day after he was arrested following a dispute with a woman at a Manhattan hotel." - usatoday.com

Can things get worse for that pitching staff ?

As long as we keep getting calls like that one at second last night, we won't need any better pitching!! Bloomquist was out by a long shot, but hey - we'll take it!:D

ChuckElias Tue May 08, 2007 09:50am

Quote:

Originally Posted by M&M Guy
The Rocket back to the Yankees?

That's gotta be a first -- a rat jumping on to a sinking ship!

This signing simply ensures that Clemens' bust in Cooperstown will have a cap with a dollar sign on it.

(And yes, I stole both those lines from The Sports Guy on espn.com :D )

M&M Guy Tue May 08, 2007 09:53am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckElias
That's gotta be a first -- a rat jumping on to a sinking ship!

This signing simply ensures that Clemens' bust in Cooperstown will have a cap with a dollar sign on it.

(And yes, I stole both those lines from The Sports Guy on espn.com :D )

Well, at least you stole the good ones. :D

mick Tue May 08, 2007 10:11am

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockyroad
As long as we keep getting calls like that one at second last night, we won't need any better pitching!! Bloomquist was out by a long shot, but hey - we'll take it!:D

Then it looks like May 8, 9, and 10 should be a Mariners' cakewalk in Motown. :)

Dan_ref Tue May 08, 2007 11:10am

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockyroad
As long as we keep getting calls like that one at second last night, we won't need any better pitching!! Bloomquist was out by a long shot, but hey - we'll take it!:D

http://www.artestuff.com/images/screw-standard.jpg http://www.thaianchorbolt.com/produc...521_U-bolt.jpg

Jurassic Referee Tue May 08, 2007 11:15am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckElias
This signing simply ensures that Clemens' bust in Cooperstown will have a cap with a dollar sign on it.

Gee, they love him in NYC though....

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...ow_ring-1.html

Someone has got Mr. Money figgered out......

Jurassic Referee Tue May 08, 2007 11:18am

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockyroad
As long as we keep getting calls like that one at second last night, we won't need any better pitching!! Bloomquist was out by a long shot, but hey - we'll take it!:D

The umpire, Gerry Davis, admitted that he blew it. His response after the game as quoted in the NY papers was "I didn't miss the call. I kicked the sh!t out of it.".

He's human. He ain't no different than the rest of us.

Dan_ref Tue May 08, 2007 11:25am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
The umpire, Gerry Davis, admitted that he blew it. His response after the game as quoted in the NY papers was "I didn't miss the call. I kicked the sh!t out of it.".

He's human. He ain't no different than the rest of us.

Not Jon Diebler.


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