ESPN are a bunch of idiots too!!!!!

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I am watching the College Gameday program on ESPN after as they are reviewing the Georgetown-Vanderbilt game. Then Doug Gotlieb as usual opens his dumb pie hole trying to tell the public about calls he knows nothing about. Doug G says the last play was a travel because the ball handler switched pivot feet.

Doug Gotlieb is a completely stupid guy. For one, if there was a travel, "IT WAS NOT BECAUSE HE SWITCHED PIVOT FEET." The only way there could be a travel if you say the right foot (which was the pivot foot) was moved and you can make a case he was pushed. You can always pick up the pivot foot to shoot and pass (which by the way was the explanation CBS gave me over the phone). When are these guys going to ever pick up a rulebook and actually read it? When?

Peace

This is, of course, the downside of technology. We now have the capability to slow down, freeze, and replay forever and find a reason to overturn a call or bash an official. And officials are just as hard on other officials as fans are.

Case in point was the Oden foul in the Xavier game. None of the game announcers, sportswriters, or the Xavier coach made much more of the foul than what it was, a foul. Yet officials on this forum wanted an intentional foul called based, solely, on replays and youtube video.

No call or decision by an official can be judged in a vacuum. Instant replay in football does no one any good if the play has to be viewed ad nauseum until a decision can be reached. It serves only to slow the game down.

Whether there was travelling or not by Georgetown is a non issue since no official at the highest level of the NCAA would make that call based on a real time view. It is only controversial when it is slowed down and even then you have a debate.

As officials we need to advocate and educate the media on not only the rules but how we apply them, i/e what constitutes a block/charge call in basketball, what kind of tag in baseball always means an out, how is interference in football judged...etc.

CBS's example of the Georgetown travel was unfair to the crew working the game.....we need to make sure that kind of distortion is avoided in the future

[canuckrefguy]

Originally Posted by jimpiano

This is, of course, the downside of technology. We now have the capability to slow down, freeze, and replay forever and find a reason to overturn a call or bash an official. And officials are just as hard on other officials as fans are.

Case in point was the Oden foul in the Xavier game. None of the game announcers, sportswriters, or the Xavier coach made much more of the foul than what it was, a foul. Yet officials on this forum wanted an intentional foul called based, solely, on replays and youtube video.

No call or decision by an official can be judged in a vacuum. Instant replay in football does no one any good if the play has to be viewed ad nauseum until a decision can be reached. It serves only to slow the game down.

Whether there was travelling or not by Georgetown is a non issue since no official at the highest level of the NCAA would make that call based on a real time view. It is only controversial when it is slowed down and even then you have a debate.

As officials we need to advocate and educate the media on not only the rules but how we apply them, i/e what constitutes a block/charge call in basketball, what kind of tag in baseball always means an out, how is interference in football judged...etc.

CBS's example of the Georgetown travel was unfair to the crew working the game.....we need to make sure that kind of distortion is avoided in the future

Some GREAT points....

If the play had been called a travel, I wonder if that official would have been torn a new you-know-what by the observer for making a ticky-tack call.

Think about the ACTUAL situation - a lightning fast sequence of events involving some of the quickest athletes in the country - pressure situation in the last seconds of a game, in front of 20,000 people, and on national TV.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by jimpiano

No call or decision by an official can be judged in a vacuum.

Except, of course, when you post a picture of Oden and want all of us to condemn the officials for not calling a holding foul his opponent.

[Nevadaref]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/ncaato...t&lid=tab1pos2

by Andy Katz

You can argue that Green traveled, if you'd like, although one person I know who has officiated e-mailed me Friday night and said a player is allowed to "alight" on his non-pivot foot to shoot or pass. There could be a debate over whether his right foot slipped a little, causing a violation, but in stepping through the Commodores' double-team, Green executed a textbook move to complete the play. Green says he didn't travel. If anything, he said, "I probably got pushed and they didn't call it."

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Except, of course, when you post a picture of Oden and want all of us to condemn the officials for not calling a holding foul his opponent.

Except for the fact that is not what I "asked".

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jimpiano

Except for the fact that is not what I "asked".

Really? We all must have just read this comment wrongly. Gee, our bad.

Originally Posted by jimpiano

The play in the picture was a no call just seconds before the Oden foul no one was shy about calling an intentional foul.

I repeat the question,,,,if you are going to call an intentional foul based on pictures, then explain how this one was missed?