Do you want another "Whatta ya got"?

[Mark Dexter]

For whatever reason, on my computer, the video freezes for just a moment right as the defensive player is getting his foot down. I'll take everyone else's word that the feet are there in time and say that the contact is a charge.

That said, as Mr. Grammar Guy, I'm a bit disappointed with South Dakota. Apparently, they play "Basket Ball" and they have a tournament of boys instead of a boys' basketball tourney.

[jontheref]

It looks like I may be the only one who believes that the offensive player has started to leave his feet when the guy sets himself. I got a block, but I am selling it like an SOB to anyone who wants to know. Its a toughy though

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by jontheref

It looks like I may be the only one who believes that the offensive player has started to leave his feet when the guy sets himself. I got a block, but I am selling it like an SOB to anyone who wants to know. Its a toughy though

Jon:

I do not have a problem per se if one official sees a block and one sees a charge on a bang-bang play like the one in posted in this thread. The discussion in this thread is how to apply the guarding and screening rules. Old School thinks that he does not have to apply the rules correctly; he wants to apply the rules the way he wants to apply the rules any way he sees fits.

With regard to how you viewed the play. This is a difference between a player starting to leave his feet and a player has already left his feet. Either a player is airborne or not airborne. If the offensive player is not airborne when the defensive player obtained/established a LGP then the contact has to be a charge.

MTD, Sr.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Jon:

I do not have a problem per se if one official sees a block and one sees a charge on a bang-bang play like the one in posted in this thread. The discussion in this thread is how to apply the guarding and screening rules. Old School thinks that he does not have to apply the rules correctly; he wants to apply the rules the way he wants to apply the rules any way he sees fits.

Come on now, that's just not true. If we get to the same place at the same time, what difference does it make how we got there. You see, some people like to take the bus, some people take the train, and some people like to drive. You figure the only way to get there is one way, and if this particular way is not followed, exactly, then rein down all the sins of heavon on this person. He is not fit to officiate, and on, and on, and on....

A wise man once said, be weary of anyone who speaks bad of others, for there is almost always a hiddden agenda.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Old School

Come on now, that's just not true. If we get to the same place at the same time, what difference does it make how we got there. You see, some people like to take the bus, some people take the train, and some people like to drive. You figure the only way to get there is one way, and if this particular way is not followed, exactly, then rein down all the sins of heavon on this person. He is not fit to officiate, and on, and on, and on....

A wise man once said, be weary of anyone who speaks bad of others, for there is almost always a hiddden agenda.

Old School:

First, we are not getting to the same place. You insist on applying an incorrect inerpretation of the rules; that means we cannot get to the same place. Second, you are not fit to officiate, you posts prove it. Third, there is no hidden agenda, you are not fit to officiate.

MTD, Sr.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jontheref

It looks like I may be the only one who believes that the offensive player has started to leave his feet when the guy sets himself. I got a block, but I am selling it like an SOB to anyone who wants to know. Its a toughy though

Of course he's started to leave his feet. The question is, has he actually beocome airborne before the defender gets LGP.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by RushmoreRef

I can already hear it now......take a look guys and tell me what you think....no I was not working the game....Took place in the South Dakota State tournament....official called a "charge"....I can already hear "Old School"

PS - Notice the half circle used in NBA in black in the lane..defensive player is a step outside of it...if that makes any difference to anyone.

http://www.chamberlain.k12.sd.us/chs...ntitled-1.html

I got a player control.