My Old High School

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Big2Cat

(I won't discuss the added 2 seconds coming from the home team's scorekeeper that the refs put back on the clock)

I will. The video has a natural break that you can find by pausing it and then sliding the dot along the bar. This occurs at 1:11 of the video clip and the game clock is clearly visible and shows 7.3 seconds left. The clock is running while the player is OOB making the throw-in following the three-point goal, which made the score 58-59 in favor of the visitors.

I now pushed play and let the video run. I clicked pause as soon as I heard the official sound the whistle for the ensuing foul. The video clip stops at 1:14. That means that the clock should be at about 4.3 seconds left. When the camera swings over and shows the game clock it says 4.1 seconds. There is no obvious timing error here. The home timer pulled one over on the refs. The clock was reset to 6.0 seconds and that clearly isn't right.
This video should be sent to the state office.

[Nevadaref]

How do I get a copy of that video? That is a must have training video for an officials' association.

Unfortunately, there is no way to download and save videos from youtube.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

How do I get a copy of that video? That is a must have training video for an officials' association.

Unfortunately, there is no way to download and save videos from youtube.

Actually, you can.

Don't have time right now to do the research, but Google "saving YouTube video" and you'll find software out there that does exactly that.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

Actually, you can.

Don't have time right now to do the research, but Google "saving YouTube video" and you'll find software out there that does exactly that.

You might not have heard but Viacom is suing Google/Youtube for $1B for content rights violation. This is going to be a huge deal.

With that in mind, here are a bunch of links to help you out.

Enjoy (but be careful )

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...video+software

[Nevadaref]

A big thanks to both of you!

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

A big thanks to both of you!

Yeah yeah, whatever. You're still an annoying pain in the azz.

[Scrapper1]

The clip is titled "Fiasco", and that's exactly what it was.

I didn't watch closely enough to notice the time issue, but the shot obviously should not have counted. Nevadaref is exactly right about the Lead official, too. Never should have been in the lane, shouldn't have been looking up at the ball, but since he was looking up, why didn't he help on that?!?!

I'm sure the two guys feel bad about it (or will, when they see the clip), but that's not good.

[jmaellis]

Anybody willing to comment as to whether or not you would call or pass on the lane violation committed on the second free throw by the player in the white jersey occupying the space directly to the left of the free throw shooter (2:52). Since the basket was made I now it doesn't matter, but I didn't see either official give the delayed lane violation signal, so I'm wondering if the encroachment into the lane was not significant enough to warrant a call.

[The Canuck]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

The home timer pulled one over on the refs.

Jeffrey Maier, move over and eat your heart out. I hope that scorer's conscience eats at him/her forever.

But more importantly, if the officials don't have definitive knowledge, why was any time put back on the clock to begin with? Why are they taking the scorer's word?

[ChrisSportsFan]

Wow, those are 2 huge mistakes...adding time without positive knowledge and the ball hitting the support.

Whatever they told the V Coach, he seemed to take it pretty well unless that part of the video was edited.

I would say they've got som splainin to do to someone.

Not being there, we have no idea how the rest of the game went but unfortunatly, they will always be remembered for those last 8 seconds (the 6 that ran off and the 2 they added).

[JRutledge]

Is it just me or do we really know why the officials changed the time? I did not see anything on the tape other than the suggestion by the person that created the video that the timer was responsible for the change of the clock. I think that is an assumption made rather than a proven issue. The officials did talk for some time about the issue and that tells me there must have been something up with the clock and that is the reason time was put on the clock. Now whether they put the right amount of time up is another issue. I just do not see anything on the tape that suggests the timer was responsible for the addition of time. There was no audio on the conversation between the officials or the table personnel.

Peace

[Junker]

They are 2 major mistakes. I'm glad it wasn't my game. I agree that 3 person mechanics make situations like this much easier. I wonder if the state will make a statement on this game?