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Old Fri Mar 09, 2007, 04:31pm
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Not to mention it's a bad offensive play to take this shot with 5 defenders on you. Someone has to be open.
I disagree. If you know you're going to get hammered and you're shooting a 3, it's a GOOD offensive play! Especially if you're going to miss and get 10 shots!!!!
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Old Fri Mar 09, 2007, 05:01pm
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Only two free throws on a missed 3 point shot? Why not three? Or am I missing something due to the multiple foul?
Same question here? What gives?
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Old Fri Mar 09, 2007, 05:09pm
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Same question here? What gives?
Rule 10-6-PENALTIES6b(2) gives....
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Old Fri Mar 09, 2007, 05:10pm
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it's just what is in the rule book.

a player is awarded 1 shot per multiple foul on a made or missed 2 point basket.

a player is awarded one foul shot per mulitple foul on a made 3 point basket and 2 foul shots per multiple foul on a missed 3 point basket.

so basically...you want to miss the shot because you can only score 8 points if you make the 3 pointer, but if you miss you can score up to 10 points. So when in the situation...tell your players to miss the shot.
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Old Fri Mar 09, 2007, 05:16pm
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it's just what is in the rule book.

a player is awarded 1 shot per multiple foul on a made or missed 2 point basket.

a player is awarded one foul shot per mulitple foul on a made 3 point basket and 2 foul shots per multiple foul on a missed 3 point basket.

so basically...you want to miss the shot because you can only score 8 points if you make the 3 pointer, but if you miss you can score up to 10 points. So when in the situation...tell your players to miss the shot.
my math is 11 (8 + 3) points - 3 for the first foul and 8 (4x2) for the other 4 fouls. (The first foul is not multiple, the next four make it multiple)
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Old Fri Mar 09, 2007, 05:19pm
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my math is 11 (8 + 3) points - 3 for the first foul and 8 (4x2) for the other 4 fouls. (The first foul is not multiple, the next four make it multiple)
Nope. Having more than one makes them all part of the multiple foul.
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Old Fri Mar 09, 2007, 05:23pm
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Look in the back of your rule book and find the section that says Summary of Penalties for All Fouls.

Under Multiple Foul it states two free throws for each foul of an unsuccessful three-point try or tap.
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So a shooter tries a 3 and is fouled by 5 opponents simultaneously.

Missed:
0 points + possible 10 points [5 opponents * 2 shots/opponent] = 10 points maximum

Made:
3 points + possible 5 points [5 opponents * 1 shots/opponent] = 8 points maximum

Now, take into FTA% and 3FGA%. Most people shoot around 75% from the stripe. So, in case [missed], 0 + 10 * 0.75 = 7.5 points on average; and in [made], 3FGA% ~ 30% (agree?), which is 0.3* 3 + 5 * 0.75 = 0.9 + 3.75 = 4.65 points on average.

However, it comes down to a comparison between one's %ages.

Let x = % of FT
Let y = % of 3FG

[missed] 10x
[made] 5x + 3y

Break it down:
10x = 5x + 3y
5x = 3y
x = 3/5 y

if x > 3/5 y, then [missed] is better
if x < 3/5 y, then [made] is better
if x = 3/5 y, it is a wash

QED

Edit: change the formula in italics. My excuse was that I was trying to leave work...
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Old Fri Mar 09, 2007, 05:44pm
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Nope. Having more than one makes them all part of the multiple foul.
Thank-you.
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So a shooter tries a 3 and is fouled by 5 opponents simultaneously.

Missed:
0 points + possible 10 points [5 opponents * 2 shots/opponent] = 10 points maximum

Made:
3 points + possible 5 points [5 opponents * 1 shots/opponent] = 8 points maximum

Now, take into FTA% and 3FGA%. Most people shoot around 75% from the stripe. So, in case [missed], 0 + 10 * 0.75 = 7.5 points on average; and in [made], 3FGA% ~ 30% (agree?), which is 3 + 5 * 0.3 = 3 + 1.5 = 4.5 points on average.

However, it comes down to a comparison between one's %ages.

Let x = % of FT
Let y = % of 3FG

[missed] 10x
[made] 5x + 3y

Break it down:
10x = 5x + 3y
5x = 3y
x = 3/5 y

if x > 3/5 y, then [missed] is better
if x < 3/5 y, then [made] is better
if x = 3/5 y, it is a wash

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Old Fri Mar 09, 2007, 07:03pm
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Geeze, I thought Padgett was the only one with too much time on his hands.

Are you referring to the fact that I wear fourteen watches?
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Old Fri Mar 09, 2007, 07:30pm
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Are you referring to the fact that I wear fourteen watches?
I rest my case.
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Old Fri Mar 09, 2007, 07:35pm
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So a shooter tries a 3 and is fouled by 5 opponents simultaneously.

Missed:
0 points + possible 10 points [5 opponents * 2 shots/opponent] = 10 points maximum

Made:
3 points + possible 5 points [5 opponents * 1 shots/opponent] = 8 points maximum

Now, take into FTA% and 3FGA%. Most people shoot around 75% from the stripe. So, in case [missed], 0 + 10 * 0.75 = 7.5 points on average; and in [made], 3FGA% ~ 30% (agree?), which is 3 + 5 * 0.3 = 3 + 1.5 = 4.5 points on average.

However, it comes down to a comparison between one's %ages.

Let x = % of FT
Let y = % of 3FG

[missed] 10x
[made] 5x + 3y

Break it down:
10x = 5x + 3y
5x = 3y
x = 3/5 y

if x > 3/5 y, then [missed] is better
if x < 3/5 y, then [made] is better
if x = 3/5 y, it is a wash

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Old Fri Mar 09, 2007, 08:24pm
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At least you found a pic with the correct usage of "you're".
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That's just gross. In all honesty, I like the bunny with the pancakes better.
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