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Old Thu Mar 08, 2007, 01:16am
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That's correct for NFHS rules.

Do you want to do some reading and then try for how to do it under NCAA rules?

http://www.ncaa.org/library/rules/20...ball_rules.pdf
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Old Thu Mar 08, 2007, 01:17am
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You'll have to ignore Rut. He turns into a gremlin after midnight local time.
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Old Thu Mar 08, 2007, 02:48am
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Okay .. first, ignore TRutledge is on.

I noticed that several others have already replied, but I didn't cheat and look at their answers.

If the referee did in fact call an intentional technical foul against the Washington player, that created a False Double Foul situation. In a false double foul situation where the one of the fouls is an intentional technical foul or a single flagarant technical foul, the fouls are handled in the order that they occurred, so Washington should have shot the 1-1 and then ASU would shoot two for the technical. ASU would then get the ball for a spot throw-in at the division line on either side of the court.

If, instead of an intentional technical foul, the referee called a direct technical foul against the Washington player, the false double foul situation still occurred, but the ball would be put into play at the point of interruption, which would be the 1-1, so in this case the officials would have handled it correctly.

So, if the referee called a direct technical foul against the Washington player, the administration of the penalties was handled correctly, but the call itself may have been booted because what the Washington player did appears to be more along the lines of an intentional technical foul.

If the referee called an intentional foul then they booted the administration of the penalties because they should have been handled in the order of occurrence with a division line throw in by ASU.

(BTW, because of all that reading I missed the South Park season opener)

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Old Thu Mar 08, 2007, 03:22am
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That is pretty much what my thinking was when watching the play. I was quite surprised given who the crew was that I was thinking that they administered/penalized it incorrectly.

Officials: Bob Cartmell, Bobby McRoy, Don Mcallister
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Old Thu Mar 08, 2007, 07:50am
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That is pretty much what my thinking was when watching the play. I was quite surprised given who the crew was that I was thinking that they administered/penalized it incorrectly.

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It sounds like they kicked it. I will ask Bobby about it today or tomorrow.

BTW, send up a prayer for Bobby. He has to have surgery on the 9th of April. I will get to spend some time with him when I'm out there. I normally stay with him and he works some games, but I don't know if he will be up to it this year.
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Old Thu Mar 08, 2007, 08:25am
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Art. 12 False Double Foul. A false double foul occurs when there are fouls by both teams, the second of which occurs before the game clock is started after it is stopped for the first but such that at least one of the attributes of a double foul is absent.
A.R. 21. A1 is entitled to a one-and-one free throw. Before the ball is handed to A1, Team A's coach is assessed a direct technical foul. RULING. The direct technical foul creates a false fouble foul. Team B shall be awarded two free throws because of the diret technical foul on coach A. After Team B shoots the free throws for the technical foul, A1 shall attempt the one-and-one since that was the point of interruption.
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Old Thu Mar 08, 2007, 09:01am
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Art. 12 False Double Foul. A false double foul occurs when there are fouls by both teams, the second of which occurs before the game clock is started after it is stopped for the first but such that at least one of the attributes of a double foul is absent.
A.R. 21. A1 is entitled to a one-and-one free throw. Before the ball is handed to A1, Team A's coach is assessed a direct technical foul. RULING. The direct technical foul creates a false fouble foul. Team B shall be awarded two free throws because of the diret technical foul on coach A. After Team B shoots the free throws for the technical foul, A1 shall attempt the one-and-one since that was the point of interruption.
Joe, what does all this have to do with the play from the game last night?
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Art. 12 False Double Foul. A false double foul occurs when there are fouls by both teams, the second of which occurs before the game clock is started after it is stopped for the first but such that at least one of the attributes of a double foul is absent.
A.R. 21. A1 is entitled to a one-and-one free throw. Before the ball is handed to A1, Team A's coach is assessed a direct technical foul. RULING. The direct technical foul creates a false fouble foul. Team B shall be awarded two free throws because of the diret technical foul on coach A. After Team B shoots the free throws for the technical foul, A1 shall attempt the one-and-one since that was the point of interruption.
I don't believe this is a double foul because only one team was penalized.
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It sounds like they kicked it. I will ask Bobby about it today or tomorrow.

BTW, send up a prayer for Bobby. He has to have surgery on the 9th of April. I will get to spend some time with him when I'm out there. I normally stay with him and he works some games, but I don't know if he will be up to it this year.
Yah lets us know. I know bobby was working right now with Bruce Hicks, Mike Reed.
But yah let us know on that ruling.
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Okay .. first, ignore TRutledge is on.
If you are ignoring me because you do not know how to answer an NCAA question, then you are not worth to talk to me in the first place.

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Old Thu Mar 08, 2007, 11:25am
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If you are ignoring me because you do not know how to answer an NCAA question, then you are not worth to talk to me in the first place.

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Did somebody say something????
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Old Thu Mar 08, 2007, 09:34pm
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Did somebody say something????
Who is this person again?

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