Why I hate Rec league

[Adam]

fonzzy, Good call. It's one thing to let a "little" travel go, it's quite another to let a play go that purposefully (if ignorantly) breaks the rules. This coach was teaching the girls to do something that's illegal. That's got to be called.

Would I make this call in my partner's area? No. That said, your league assigner on this apparently wants you doing this for rookies. While I don't necessarily agree with this philosophy, it is what it is. You're doing fine if that's what he wants you to do.

Now, on to your original question. Was there a game/site manager present to help you with this? If so, get him/her involved and tell them this individual needs to be escorted from the gymnasium. Your other option is (if the time frame is reasonable, I can't quite tell from the OP) to issue him a flagrant T. The comments he made to you would have been a flagrant T in the middle of a game, and the final horn does not end your jurisdiction.

After re-reading the OP, it sounds like not much time had elapsed from the final horn. In a HS game, you'd have been off the court. However, since you hadn't left, you still had jurisdiction for a T. Don't be afraid to use it; and if you do it, make it flagrant.

[reffish]

Risking to sound preachy, I want to comment. The first thing I noticed is this is a 5th grade game. I would hope that you pointed out to the players what the violation was to further prevent any further violations. Second, I admire your determination to educate your partner, however; calling the violation in front of your partner is a HUGE reach. Be patient and let your partner live and die with their whistle or lack thereof. There is nothing wrong with that. Lastly, if your assigner wants this league to be the educational environment, why not call the ball back and tell them to roll it correctly. There was no advantage gained by the 5th grade girl unknowingly roll the ball on the line. Especially if there was no press. Blow the whistle, tell the 5th grade girl how to roll the ball corretly, and then tell the coach (both of them). That is a wonderful teaching moment. This mentality is what I take into my middle school games, especially the 6th grade level games. High school and DII games, a bit differently. Thank you for reading and commenting.

[fonzzy07]

Originally Posted by reffish

Risking to sound preachy, I want to comment. The first thing I noticed is this is a 5th grade game. I would hope that you pointed out to the players what the violation was to further prevent any further violations. Second, I admire your determination to educate your partner, however; calling the violation in front of your partner is a HUGE reach. Be patient and let your partner live and die with their whistle or lack thereof. There is nothing wrong with that. Lastly, if your assigner wants this league to be the educational environment, why not call the ball back and tell them to roll it correctly. There was no advantage gained by the 5th grade girl unknowingly roll the ball on the line. Especially if there was no press. Blow the whistle, tell the 5th grade girl how to roll the ball corretly, and then tell the coach (both of them). That is a wonderful teaching moment. This mentality is what I take into my middle school games, especially the 6th grade level games. High school and DII games, a bit differently. Thank you for reading and commenting.

I would hope that you pointed out to the players what the violation was to further prevent any further violations. Correct I did this the first time she did it.
The press was allowed however. You are correct maybe that could have been a teaching moment, or maybe the first time. o well
I'M STILL INTERESTED IN IN HEARING WHAT YOU WOULD DO IF YOU WERE THE LEAGUE COMMISSIONER? WOULD YOU HAND OUT ANY PUNISHEMENT AND IF SO WHAT?

[reffish]

As the assigner, I would...wonder as you work with a rookie, who probably ball watches the entire game, why would you watch the ball, your partner is watching the ball. Take care of everything else that happens on the court, like the coaches, like you did. Punishment for the AC, well, that is up to the assigner. What they broker with the school is what will happen and you have said your peace. That is all you can do. Keep working and do what you do on the court.

[JerzeeRef]

At times your game management skills in a game of 9 & 10 year old children plays a big part. Calling every violation or foul can drag these games out and never allow any flow (Ha !) to develop. We have all had games at this level and you do pick and choose to pass on certain situations.

With 10 bodies moving around on the floor, me getting screened is always a possibility. While we do have our area of coverage, if my partner observes something in my area (but not 3/4 the lenght of the court on an inbound violation)..........call away, we are working as a team. Talk to your partner after the game and point out areas that need improvment, and also point out things he did well.......positive comments.

At the end of the game I am making a quick exit somewhere. I do not owe anyone an explanation for anything. This is going to add fuel to the fire that is already burning. Regardless of the level, game management, and court awareness ranks right up there with knowing the rule book inside and out.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by fonzzy07

I'M STILL INTERESTED IN IN HEARING WHAT YOU WOULD DO IF YOU WERE THE LEAGUE COMMISSIONER? WOULD YOU HAND OUT ANY PUNISHEMENT AND IF SO WHAT?

IMHO, there are things you can control, and things you can't. What the commissioner does or doesn't do, is definitely a cannot control. You've filed your report. Move on.