Two HS questions

[Mountaineer]

Originally Posted by Splute

How can you have a double foul on a single incident? It seems it would be one call or the other. Wouldnt the closest Ump or the Ref make the final call?

IMO, this is always caused by poor communication. In a game that I'm involved - during pregame - I make sure to say to yeild to the primary on a double whistle. If I'm involved in a double whistle the first thing I do is look at my partner - if it's his I drop my hand and nod - if it's mine, I take my left hand and touch my chest to signal I have it. The problem is that some guys crack the whistle on a crash like this and want to realy SELL the call and don't pay any attention to their partner. A blarge is never fun - but at least it's specifically dealt with in the rule book now.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Mountaineer

A blarge is never fun - but at least it's specifically dealt with in the rule book now.

Did you think that it wasn't before? It's not new. I have kept my books since 2001-02 and this same case play is in there. I'm sure that someone else can confirm that it goes back even earlier.

[Mountaineer]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Did you think that it wasn't before? It's not new. I have kept my books since 2001-02 and this same case play is in there. I'm sure that someone else can confirm that it goes back even earlier.

You are right - I don't know what I'm thinking. They did change it though. I think when they added the team control foul thing. It used to be never count the bucket - now you do in certain situations. And the POI was something else that wasn't in the book.

I claim insanity . . . of course in my defense, now as opposed to 15 years ago - I'm still right! (well, maybe!)

[Nevadaref]

You are correct that team control fouls and POI are recent additions to the NFHS rules coming in with the 2005-06 season. However, the player control cancels a goal and the a double foul allows it to count rules have been around for quite awhile. I don't know the exact years, but it is more than 10.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Did you think that it wasn't before? It's not new. I have kept my books since 2001-02 and this same case play is in there. I'm sure that someone else can confirm that it goes back even earlier.

It's in my 1914 book - the one I bought personally from Dr. Naismith.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

It's in my 1914 book - the one I bought personally from Dr. Naismith.

I thought they were still using the original 13 rules back then.

BTW, does MTD still have the original poster? I thought it was revealed a couple years ago that he had it.