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Old Tue Feb 27, 2007, 11:36am
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I do not understand why people get so frustrated about working HS playoff games. The majority of the ball simply is not that good for the amount of bull you have to go thru to get a chance to do it. You are lucky, you are among the chosen few. However, you are too young to understand the problem. In all businesses, not just this one, there are people that will feel like this when you move up, especially when they think they are just as deserving. I'm going to give you some excellent advice for your young career. Do not look back, nothing can be of benefit to you by going in that direction. Keep your eyes and career moving forward in the positive direction that you are now going. You have just as much work to do now, then you had to get here. Don't screw it up by focusing on the wrong thing. Hell no, do you say anything to him about it.

Now, to the problem. More often than not, selection to HS playoffs is more political then it is how good you are. If you think you got there on your merits, you are fooling yourself. You're 25 years old and you're working state playoffs over someone who has been wanting to do it for 15 years or longer. That's BS in my opinion. That's age discrimination. Of course you are younger, faster, more energetic, bah, bah, bah. However, as good as you think you are, you do not have the experience of a 15 year veteran. This is a dog eat dog business. Enjoy it, you are truly lucky and you don't even know it.
Just because you want to work states means you get to and then at the same time bi&ch at those who get the games?? I want to work states to, never have, maybe never will, but I will not only support my fellow referees in my association who get the games, I'll go watch them. And my fellow younger officials...good for them. I hope they go as far as possible!

I'm just wondering if you ever have anything good to say at all. Or are you just plainly an a$$hole?? I'm 23 and just got assigned a district semi-final, despite you thinking I don't even deserve a first round game from a different thread...go ahead and blast me too....I'll go work my a$$ off tomorrow night and out-referee you in my sleep.

It's the guys like you, the guys who have worked 15 years and thus think that they deserve the playoff games over the ones who get it on merit that screw up the same games. And, an FYI, in my district, every playoff game is evaluated by an observer, reviewed by the district, and then the assignments go out the night before the next round starts. No one knows who, what, or when they are working unless they get a phone call from the district the night before.

So, again I ask, do you ever have anything good to say?
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Old Tue Feb 27, 2007, 12:06pm
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So, again I ask, do you ever have anything good to say?
Never. He has never posted one thing of value, as far as I have seen. His account should've been pulled months ago.
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Old Tue Feb 27, 2007, 12:37pm
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Have your attorney send this clown a "lawyer's letter" telling him that if his comments cost you the opportunity to earn money, you will sue him for slander and ask for treble damages in court.

If you think that's too intense, then just ambush the guy one night and stuff him in a wood chipper.
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Old Tue Feb 27, 2007, 12:42pm
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It is not just Old School there are a lot of officials out there like him. A friend of mine just got selected to work the NCAA Women's Div III Final Four this season and an "older" official told me that she is good enough to work but she hasn't paid her dues yet. There are a lot of guys that have been working for 15-18 years that deserve a shot. If that was the case then the supervisor would have nominated the older official instead of her, he was right with his first comments, "she is good enough to work it."
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Old Fri Mar 02, 2007, 03:22pm
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It is not just Old School there are a lot of officials out there like him. A friend of mine just got selected to work the NCAA Women's Div III Final Four this season and an "older" official told me that she is good enough to work but she hasn't paid her dues yet. There are a lot of guys that have been working for 15-18 years that deserve a shot. If that was the case then the supervisor would have nominated the older official instead of her, he was right with his first comments, "she is good enough to work it."
I am wondering if you know the process behind being selected for the NCAA Women's Div III Final Four?
I think it goes both ways regarding who gets certain assignments. I've seen inexperienced officials get post-season assignments over more experienced officials before they were ready and completely tank and hurt their careers for a while. I've also seen them do quite well and back up the assignor's decision.
I've also seen tons of assignments go to very veteran officials who might not be as skilled as their younger counterparts because assignors are reluctant to give them a chance. Both situations have frustrated me at times. As you move up and do higher levels, you represent both scenarios depending on the level. You could be the experienced HS official who gets looked over for the young hotshot and at the same time be the young hotshot at the college level.
I just try to work as hard as I can in every game so that if someone with power is watching they will always see my best...... Luck is where preparation meets opportunity.
Sometimes it's extremely difficult to do (preaching to the choir here), but I try to remind myself when things don't work out: Control what I can control, and if I'm not, then get better at it.
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Old Thu Mar 01, 2007, 01:27pm
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congrats. that is a major accomplishment.

Show him the code of ethics that is written in the NFHS book and explain to him what you have done to make yourself better and see if he has put in as much work as you have to improve.
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Old Tue Feb 27, 2007, 02:39pm
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I'm 23 and just got assigned a district semi-final,

It's the guys like you, the guys who have worked 15 years and thus think that they deserve the playoff games over the ones who get it on merit that screw up the same games.
First, congratulations on your district semi-final. Good luck in the future too, bearing in mind that hard work combined with ability and experience hopefully should make "luck" irrelevant.

Second, there's no use getting upset at RecLeague Ronnie. He's never officiated at the high school level in his life. He simply knows not what he speaks.
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Old Tue Feb 27, 2007, 06:24pm
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First, congratulations on your district semi-final. Good luck in the future too, bearing in mind that hard work combined with ability and experience hopefully should make "luck" irrelevant.

Second, there's no use getting upset at RecLeague Ronnie. He's never officiated at the high school level in his life. He simply knows not what he speaks.
JR,

Thank you. I'll let you know how it goes!
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