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Old Mon Feb 26, 2007, 11:21am
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The bottom line is that this is the officials judgement. To me this falls into the unsportmanlike rule and I would issue a T. In my state a Flagrant T would mean he is done for the night and the next game as well. I just don't see him being frustrated and verbalizing it should result in that stiff of penalty.
I will use this example. (names are made up)
Bob is really mad at his insurance agent because he thought he was entitled to more money. Bob yells at him and even goes as far as saying he is going to hurt him. Only 2 things could happen: Agent does nothing or at worst reports Bob to police and a minor infraction is assessed to Bob
OR: Same case Bob is mad and punches agent or even kills him. In what case should a stiffer penalty be issued?
Same case in BBALL frustration was shown with words (t is given) Other actions (hits someone) Goes after an official: Stiffer penalty is given.
This is just my opionion. What we need to understand that this is a judgement issue.
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Old Mon Feb 26, 2007, 11:28am
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The bottom line is that this is the officials judgement. To me this falls into the unsportmanlike rule and I would issue a T. In my state a Flagrant T would mean he is done for the night and the next game as well. I just don't see him being frustrated and verbalizing it should result in that stiff of penalty.
I will use this example. (names are made up)
Bob is really mad at his insurance agent because he thought he was entitled to more money. Bob yells at him and even goes as far as saying he is going to hurt him. Only 2 things could happen: Agent does nothing or at worst reports Bob to police and a minor infraction is assessed to Bob
OR: Same case Bob is mad and punches agent or even kills him. In what case should a stiffer penalty be issued?
Same case in BBALL frustration was shown with words (t is given) Other actions (hits someone) Goes after an official: Stiffer penalty is given.
This is just my opionion. What we need to understand that this is a judgement issue.
Bob should have gotten Aflac ....

In all seriousness though, I see the distinction you're trying to make, and definitely think you have a good point, there are worse situations that we wouldn't have any greater punishment for. I honestly don't know how to respond to this. Definitely some good food for thought.
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Old Mon Feb 26, 2007, 11:57am
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Bob should have gotten Aflac ....

In all seriousness though, I see the distinction you're trying to make, and definitely think you have a good point, there are worse situations that we wouldn't have any greater punishment for. I honestly don't know how to respond to this. Definitely some good food for thought.
how about the fact that if a player assaults an official, he's going to get more than one game suspension. Quite possibly, he'll get criminal charges. The OP calls for a flagrant T and the one game suspension that goes with it, IMO. If he goes further, then the state can determine whether there's more called for or not.
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Old Mon Feb 26, 2007, 01:38pm
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He was (1) personal and (2) profane.
Right. If its one OR the other you might just call the T, but with both, its a no brainer ejection.
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